A short rant - No, I'm not leaving.
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When did this list turn so thankless?
I spent a good amount of time sending PM's and e-mails to 2 different listers over the last 2 weeks trying to help them out of some running problems. The first issue was an engine R&R from an '87 951. I wrote some very detailed step-by-step procedures to help out, and shortly after sending them, this person decided to tell me that I "did not know much of anything" and that my car is "embarrasing with my BLIBG BLING rims and bolt on rice mods." He went on to say "... engine removal out the top is the way to go. You'd think with 5000+ posts you would get a clue."
Ok.. I don't know everything... I have some different tastes than others.... but why the hell would someone say this to me after ASKING me for my advise? If he didn't like my step-by-step, why not just delete it from your inbox and ignore the rest?
And the comments about my car... I don't care if it is not your style... I BUILT it for me.
Some of you people need to lighten up.
I spent a good amount of time sending PM's and e-mails to 2 different listers over the last 2 weeks trying to help them out of some running problems. The first issue was an engine R&R from an '87 951. I wrote some very detailed step-by-step procedures to help out, and shortly after sending them, this person decided to tell me that I "did not know much of anything" and that my car is "embarrasing with my BLIBG BLING rims and bolt on rice mods." He went on to say "... engine removal out the top is the way to go. You'd think with 5000+ posts you would get a clue."
Ok.. I don't know everything... I have some different tastes than others.... but why the hell would someone say this to me after ASKING me for my advise? If he didn't like my step-by-step, why not just delete it from your inbox and ignore the rest?
And the comments about my car... I don't care if it is not your style... I BUILT it for me.
Some of you people need to lighten up.
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Perry,
Your car is the standard many are compared to, this guy (gal) is just jealous.
5,000+ posts doesn't make you an expert, just a web junkie. I belive you know what your talking about, but there are a few people with a sh*t load of posts I wouldn't let change my oil.
I do agree that 75+% of Rennlist needs to lighten up and pull that stick out of their ***.
Ok, on the engine removal. I know it's recommended to pull the engine from the bottom, but I've always ben curious as to why? Could you explain this a bit better? Mine is already out (not by me) but I will be putting it back in.
Your car is the standard many are compared to, this guy (gal) is just jealous.
5,000+ posts doesn't make you an expert, just a web junkie. I belive you know what your talking about, but there are a few people with a sh*t load of posts I wouldn't let change my oil.
I do agree that 75+% of Rennlist needs to lighten up and pull that stick out of their ***.
Ok, on the engine removal. I know it's recommended to pull the engine from the bottom, but I've always ben curious as to why? Could you explain this a bit better? Mine is already out (not by me) but I will be putting it back in.
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Perry, It was a pleasure to meet you and see your car in Atlanta. Maybe if this person had seen the work that you have done yourself they would have a different attitude. The number of post that a person has means nothing but see the work that they have acomplished with their own 2 hands after reading the entire shop manual is something else. I have printed the step by step that you wrote on wet sanding and plan to use it when I do my car, so your advice is appreciated.
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I value your advice Perry951, I think 99.9% of us do and your cars is a fine example of workmanship.
I removed my engine from the bottom, like Porsche suggests (but what do they know)
but as with anything there is more than one way to do something.
I removed my engine from the bottom, like Porsche suggests (but what do they know)
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I come out the bottom for a few reasons.
1. The front suspension was designed to be removed as a unit. You can take the whole thing out, wheels, struts, a-arms, crossover all as 1 unit. This helps preserve the alignment (provided you clearly mark the mounting points before removal) and speeds the process.
2. You don't need to remove the accessories from the motor if you pull from the bottom.
3. The chances of major damage to the motor / car are diminshed if your lift lets go. A fall from 3 feet is much better than one from 6.
I agree.. it's not about the # of posts, rather the content and research behind them.
1. The front suspension was designed to be removed as a unit. You can take the whole thing out, wheels, struts, a-arms, crossover all as 1 unit. This helps preserve the alignment (provided you clearly mark the mounting points before removal) and speeds the process.
2. You don't need to remove the accessories from the motor if you pull from the bottom.
3. The chances of major damage to the motor / car are diminshed if your lift lets go. A fall from 3 feet is much better than one from 6.
I agree.. it's not about the # of posts, rather the content and research behind them.
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I didn't post this to get a few pats on the back... I posted hoping that all of you who read this will be a little more thankful of the advise you get around here. If you can't say something nice, keep your friggin' mouth shut!
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My observation is that many Rennlisters post/reply mostly for social reasons, and do not have much technical knowledge.
Saying that, I want to acknowledge that there are Rennlisters who are extremely knowlegable and helpfull. Perry951 is one of them. Thumbs up for him!
Saying that, I want to acknowledge that there are Rennlisters who are extremely knowlegable and helpfull. Perry951 is one of them. Thumbs up for him!
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I agree its envy Perry. You can park that 'bling bling' next to mine ANY DAY.
If it wasnt for Rennlist I would hosed. This joint and the community from it has saved me hundreds maybe thousands. For someone like me who does not turn wrenches, Ive never NOT had people willing to come to my rescue and draw me up a picture so I can try to figure something out.
Im the guy who looked at his new set of floor mats from Lloyds and said, "How in the hell am I suppose to know which one is the left one? Youd think Lloyds would have some brains and label them."
If it wasnt for Rennlist I would hosed. This joint and the community from it has saved me hundreds maybe thousands. For someone like me who does not turn wrenches, Ive never NOT had people willing to come to my rescue and draw me up a picture so I can try to figure something out.
Im the guy who looked at his new set of floor mats from Lloyds and said, "How in the hell am I suppose to know which one is the left one? Youd think Lloyds would have some brains and label them."
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I would agree there are many thankless and rude people around, just like real life ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Just drop in on the thread with the guy selling his 968 Turbo, people are ripping on this guy who obviously put allot of time, money and effort into his car.
don't sweat it Brian, there are plenty of us who appreciate the help we get on Rennlist.
I even respect what you have to say despite that ricemobile you drive
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Just drop in on the thread with the guy selling his 968 Turbo, people are ripping on this guy who obviously put allot of time, money and effort into his car.
don't sweat it Brian, there are plenty of us who appreciate the help we get on Rennlist.
I even respect what you have to say despite that ricemobile you drive
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i just checked your P-car profile, and wanted to say there is nothing bling bling about your car. You have made some enhancements that still keep the timeless look of the 944. Love those wheels and would love to eat a meal of your engine bay ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
In other words, VERY nice/clean engine.
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In other words, VERY nice/clean engine.
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Hmmm, thats not very cool. I'm glad you didn't reveal who it was, because maybe they were just having a bad day... maybe not, but with 5000+ posts, id like to hopefully give him the benefit of the doubt. Going from under seems easier by the way you describe it, but when I helped Danno drop his engine back in the car, we went from the top, and though all the bolting in of accessories was a pain, the process wasn't hard. Perry, you know everyone is jealous of your car, so don't take any words like that to hard...
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Wow, Brians car is a great car and very nice not to mention if you read the story you know that he had to learn something from all the work involved.
With that said (and saying this as a joke)
Dear Brian Perry
Your car sucks so just give it to me!
Sincerely, Fishey
With that said (and saying this as a joke)
Dear Brian Perry
Your car sucks so just give it to me!
Sincerely, Fishey