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Funny thing is the 944S2 and 944S have almost identical 0-60 times due to lower weight on the S trim.
Are you sure about that? I’ve only seen 0-60 figures for the ROW S which was about 30# lighter and marginally faster. The US S was about parity in weight to the S2 and I’ve never seen a 0-60 quoted by Porsche for the US car, they “surprisingly” quote the ROW figures in US literature.
Guys I'm new to the 944 scene but I'm not sure of the 4 cylinder hp fixation. If you want power get a 928. It'll pull from idle to redline.
I refloated the solder on the cruise module on mine and wasn't familiar with the "reset" on the stem (I thought it turned it off) and as I was exiting the highway I tripped that and the pedal dropped away, the back end hunkered down, the front rose up and the thing dang near mounted the BMW SUV in front of me. Scared the living crap out of me... I just don't see the allure but then again I have kids that can't feed themselves. .
Spencer you had vems correct? How was the difference with the trusty pants dyno?
i ran the MAF kit for 3? years before switching to VEMS w/ MAP.
the low/mid-range gains are incredible, the car is totally transformed and more responsive. a small gain of peak power too.
truthfully, all you guys should stop spending money on coilovers and stuff that's not useful on the street, and save up for the MAF kit instead.
there is no other mod for the 944 that delivers that kind of bang for buck.
MAF/MAP feel the same power-wise but I wanted a new ECU with more tunability, which is why I sold the MAF and went to VEMS.
this was on my early NA 8-valve with stock DME/AFM vs the basic NA-tune MAF kit. look at the number gains (over +10% torque) and curves...and they did a prototype MAF for the S-cars that had similar or better gains down low.
Are you sure about that? I’ve only seen 0-60 figures for the ROW S which was about 30# lighter and marginally faster. The US S was about parity in weight to the S2 and I’ve never seen a 0-60 quoted by Porsche for the US car, they “surprisingly” quote the ROW figures in US literature.
Yes there was an article about it the difference was only like .5-.6 seconds. Ill see if I can find it. But makes sense since the S2 is like 20hp and 40tq difference so with roughly 150 lbs lighter it shouldn’t be far behind. Granted I’m sure thats with an S that had a fresh engine. Also there is a video of a chipped or ecu upgraded S against an S2 and a BMW. The 944’s were tied from what I can tell.
Eh it was wikipedia... so I’ll throw that in the maybe box lol. I did see it some where else though but I’ll stick witgh that for now.
“ The 1987 944 S' power-to-weight ratio was such that it was able to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 6.5 seconds thus matching the acceleration of its newer larger displacement 3.0 L 944 S2 sibling. “
Eh it was wikipedia... so I’ll throw that in the maybe box lol. I did see it some where else though but I’ll stick witgh that for now..
Yeh there’s a bunch of misinformation and confusion even in Peter Morgan’s book (photo). According to the book there is only a 30kg (66LB) difference between the S & S2 and the ROW S and US S are the same weight which cannot be true. Iirc the US bumpers add about 30LB each to the equation, so I’m still skeptical about any quoted 0-60 times especially by the factory as they will obviously choose the lightest version.
Anyway, who owns one of the two 1987 US “Sport” 944S cars and what is it?
Yeh there’s a bunch of misinformation and confusion even in Peter Morgan’s book (photo). According to the book there is only a 30kg (66LB) difference between the S & S2 and the ROW S and US S are the same weight which cannot be true. Iirc the US bumpers add about 30LB each to the equation, so I’m still skeptical about any quoted 0-60 times especially by the factory as they will obviously choose the lightest version.
Anyway, who owns one of the two 1987 US “Sport” 944S cars and what is it?
This site lists a greater difference in weight as well... interesting. Might get mine weighed before I swap the engine. I think one of those 944 S Sports was just on ebay, went for like 30k I believe and was red. I saw one of the 944S with airbag for sale a few years ago always as a callaway turbo 944, kinda kicking myself on the callaway.
The S2's 20% increase in displacement more than makes up for a few extra pounds I keep meaning to run mine over the scales just to see what it weighs in real life.
Hmm, question Spencer, when I look at the data numbers at bottom, it looks like max HP and torque only improve by <5%, or am I reading that wrong?
like I said in my post, peak numbers go up a little but it's the "area under the curve" that dramatically increases.
that's where your acceleration happens....its a night and day change, really.
09-04-2019, 11:24 AM
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