Spilled coolant into my oil filter housing!
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Spilled coolant into my oil filter housing!
I spilled coolant into my oil filter hosing. It might have been as much as 1/4 of a cup or so. I had the filter removed to make room to get the headers out, and I realized I had to disconnect the metal heater pipe too. So I clamped off the rubber hose and pulled out the pipe, but it still spilled coolant - I presume most or all of it went into the filter housing.
Now, the question is, can I just drain the oil, and assume that the coolant will all be in the oil pan? Or do I need to crank it over a few times to make it circulate back to the pan? The car has been sitting for a week at this point so wherever the coolant is going to drain to, it's there now. But I'm not familiar enough with the path the oil takes to know where it would have ended up.
Thanks!
Now, the question is, can I just drain the oil, and assume that the coolant will all be in the oil pan? Or do I need to crank it over a few times to make it circulate back to the pan? The car has been sitting for a week at this point so wherever the coolant is going to drain to, it's there now. But I'm not familiar enough with the path the oil takes to know where it would have ended up.
Thanks!
#2
Racer
Don't start it. Drain the oil,take off the oil cooler and clean it up (good time to do the cooler seals)-the oil filter is part of that set up. I would even take compressed air into the oil pathways after the cooler is off. Good luck.
#3
Three Wheelin'
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What I was thinking was, pull the fuel pump fuse, crank the engine over a few times, and then let it sit for a long time. Surely that would result in everything ending up in the pan, except trace amounts of water that would quickly evaporate when running?
#4
Racer
If you look at the block you can see where the coolant spill has a chance to go. Compressed air may or may not help to evacuate the stuff from the oil passage ways. You can leave the drain plug off and inject oil into the heat exchanger oil passages to help it drain. You might do a search online to see if anyone has done this before (spilled coolant in the oil filter housing) and see what their fix was. You dont want to see the milkshake looking oil. Drain the oil first and see if it all comes out.
#5
Three Wheelin'
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If you look at the block you can see where the coolant spill has a chance to go. Compressed air may or may not help to evacuate the stuff from the oil passage ways. You can leave the drain plug off and inject oil into the heat exchanger oil passages to help it drain. You might do a search online to see if anyone has done this before (spilled coolant in the oil filter housing) and see what their fix was. You dont want to see the milkshake looking oil. Drain the oil first and see if it all comes out.
I'll definitely drain the oil before I do anything else.
#6
Rainman
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the "oil filter nipple" is the return path to the engine AFTER getting filtered.
the circumferential passages are the feed from the oil pump TO the filter.
were it mine i'd just spin it on the starter for 10 seconds or so to blow it through the system, let sit to drain down, and then change the oil the next day.
engine not running, no real load on bearings or anything, you're talking about ~2 oz of coolant (which is somewhat slippery itself) in a 200+ oz system.
the circumferential passages are the feed from the oil pump TO the filter.
were it mine i'd just spin it on the starter for 10 seconds or so to blow it through the system, let sit to drain down, and then change the oil the next day.
engine not running, no real load on bearings or anything, you're talking about ~2 oz of coolant (which is somewhat slippery itself) in a 200+ oz system.
#7
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
the "oil filter nipple" is the return path to the engine AFTER getting filtered.
the circumferential passages are the feed from the oil pump TO the filter.
were it mine i'd just spin it on the starter for 10 seconds or so to blow it through the system, let sit to drain down, and then change the oil the next day.
engine not running, no real load on bearings or anything, you're talking about ~2 oz of coolant (which is somewhat slippery itself) in a 200+ oz system.
the circumferential passages are the feed from the oil pump TO the filter.
were it mine i'd just spin it on the starter for 10 seconds or so to blow it through the system, let sit to drain down, and then change the oil the next day.
engine not running, no real load on bearings or anything, you're talking about ~2 oz of coolant (which is somewhat slippery itself) in a 200+ oz system.
I'm debating whether to drain the oil again tomorrow after doing that.
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#9
Three Wheelin'
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I've been thinking about how this could have happened. This area where the coolant was is definitely not directly under the hose. What I'm thinking now is, the coolant spilled onto the open area of the filter housing, but with that being already full of oil, the coolant just ran off onto the ground and into that little trough.
I cranked it a few times until I saw the oil pressure needle move, and now I'll let it sit overnight. I got some more oil in case I decide to drain it again tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure not as much went in there as I thought.
#10
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Thanks for suggesting this - you may have saved me some trouble! I just removed the filter and tried pouring oil in, both into the centre hole and the surrounding holes. It wouldn't take more than a drop before it started spilling out. But while I was doing this, I noticed something - there's a little sort of trough between the oil filter housing and the block - just part of the casting I suppose - but it was full of coolant! Somehow, that's where most of my coolant went, it seems.
I've been thinking about how this could have happened. This area where the coolant was is definitely not directly under the hose. What I'm thinking now is, the coolant spilled onto the open area of the filter housing, but with that being already full of oil, the coolant just ran off onto the ground and into that little trough.
I cranked it a few times until I saw the oil pressure needle move, and now I'll let it sit overnight. I got some more oil in case I decide to drain it again tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure not as much went in there as I thought.
I've been thinking about how this could have happened. This area where the coolant was is definitely not directly under the hose. What I'm thinking now is, the coolant spilled onto the open area of the filter housing, but with that being already full of oil, the coolant just ran off onto the ground and into that little trough.
I cranked it a few times until I saw the oil pressure needle move, and now I'll let it sit overnight. I got some more oil in case I decide to drain it again tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure not as much went in there as I thought.
I know the trough area you're describing that caught some of the coolant. Would be very lucky to get coolant in the trough and at least not some coolant in the filter housing and down into the motor. That said, I think draining, filling, cranking, draining again and finally filling again, you'll be fine.
#11
Drifting
I followed Tom's guide for HG replacement--which is a great guide--and there's a step to remove the oil filter. A few steps later, coolant drains directly into the oil filter housing: the only part of the guide I feel needs "updating" lol
Anyway, I was also doing the oil thermostat housing seals. I drained the oil and did notice lots of coolant came out. When finished, I filled the engine with the cheapest oil I could find; it was a 10w30 called "Peak" and it flowed like water. Literally. With DME relay unplugged, I cranked the motor a few times until I saw oil pressure. Then I drained that water-oil. Next, I filled it up with better oil but still not my usual type. This time, I ran the engine till fully warmed up. Drained again. Finally, I filled it up with the usual stuff and it's been good since.
The whole "oil-in-the-filter-housing" cost me a couple of cheap oil changes, but I figure better safe than sorry. I still don't get how that "Peak" oil can possibly have any viscosity!?
Anyway, I was also doing the oil thermostat housing seals. I drained the oil and did notice lots of coolant came out. When finished, I filled the engine with the cheapest oil I could find; it was a 10w30 called "Peak" and it flowed like water. Literally. With DME relay unplugged, I cranked the motor a few times until I saw oil pressure. Then I drained that water-oil. Next, I filled it up with better oil but still not my usual type. This time, I ran the engine till fully warmed up. Drained again. Finally, I filled it up with the usual stuff and it's been good since.
The whole "oil-in-the-filter-housing" cost me a couple of cheap oil changes, but I figure better safe than sorry. I still don't get how that "Peak" oil can possibly have any viscosity!?
#12
Three Wheelin'
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Well thanks for all the input everyone. I ended up not changing the oil a second time. It just seemed like overkill. I've been driving the car a fair bit since then so if there was any coolant left it's gone by now.