991 turbo versus 930
08-13-2014, 11:53 AM
#197
Instructor
I have trouble keeping track of the numbers any way. Porsche 911 turbo works well for me.
Earlier in the thread, there was an assumption that "930" is an uppity term over "911 Turbo" and that is why people use it-just the opposite to me. Let's face it most people don't drive 30+ year old cars so the natural assumption when you say "911 turbo" is you drive a newer 911 turbo-a 100k-200k car and a completely different car than a 930. Don't get me wrong I love the 930 but it is very different than what the average person knows today as a 911 turbo. Technically 100% accurate (at the time) naming does not clear up what you drive today at all, comes across as cagey and misleading to me if they stop at "911 Turbo".
So what if they are not "most people" and do know Porsche, "911 turbo" covers so many models that the followup question is "what year". Then when I tell them they look up in the air and we play this Q&A game about the tail-yes, headlights that stick up (no not pop up), 80's first generation, single turbo blah blah. I don't enjoy playing that game and I'm sure we've all done it.
So when people ask what I drive on weekends I tell them an "old Porsche" with a very big proud smile. If they are Porsche aware I tell them a 930 turbo. I'm often asked if it is a "real 930" by Porsche people when they see the wide body and tail so that seems the quickest way to get across what it is. How identifying your car as the 30 year old model, not the latest model is being snooty is completely lost on me.
I know it seems odd that I see "911 Turbo", the accurate name as misleading but thats what happens when you have almost 40 years and many generations that use it. How confusing when a new 911 owner posts in a 911 forum and we have to tell him he is in the wrong place. Same reason, it is not that useful when identifying the cars. I prefer to keep the marketing name on my title, 930 to me is simply more useful.
But whatever you choose to use, enjoy these wonderful old Porsches
08-13-2014, 12:52 PM
#198
Rennlist Member
Dark930, your post above doesn't jive that well with your name. As you may find the numbers are very useful.
Earlier in the thread, there was an assumption that "930" is an uppity term over "911 Turbo" and that is why people use it-just the opposite to me. Let's face it most people don't drive 30+ year old cars so the natural assumption when you say "911 turbo" is you drive a newer 911 turbo-a 100k-200k car and a completely different car than a 930. Don't get me wrong I love the 930 but it is very different than what the average person knows today as a 911 turbo. Technically 100% accurate (at the time) naming does not clear up what you drive today at all, comes across as cagey and misleading to me if they stop at "911 Turbo".
So what if they are not "most people" and do know Porsche, "911 turbo" covers so many models that the followup question is "what year". Then when I tell them they look up in the air and we play this Q&A game about the tail-yes, headlights that stick up (no not pop up), 80's first generation, single turbo blah blah. I don't enjoy playing that game and I'm sure we've all done it.
So when people ask what I drive on weekends I tell them an "old Porsche" with a very big proud smile. If they are Porsche aware I tell them a 930 turbo. I'm often asked if it is a "real 930" by Porsche people when they see the wide body and tail so that seems the quickest way to get across what it is. How identifying your car as the 30 year old model, not the latest model is being snooty is completely lost on me.
I know it seems odd that I see "911 Turbo", the accurate name as misleading but thats what happens when you have almost 40 years and many generations that use it. How confusing when a new 911 owner posts in a 911 forum and we have to tell him he is in the wrong place. Same reason, it is not that useful when identifying the cars. I prefer to keep the marketing name on my title, 930 to me is simply more useful.
But whatever you choose to use, enjoy these wonderful old Porsches
Earlier in the thread, there was an assumption that "930" is an uppity term over "911 Turbo" and that is why people use it-just the opposite to me. Let's face it most people don't drive 30+ year old cars so the natural assumption when you say "911 turbo" is you drive a newer 911 turbo-a 100k-200k car and a completely different car than a 930. Don't get me wrong I love the 930 but it is very different than what the average person knows today as a 911 turbo. Technically 100% accurate (at the time) naming does not clear up what you drive today at all, comes across as cagey and misleading to me if they stop at "911 Turbo".
So what if they are not "most people" and do know Porsche, "911 turbo" covers so many models that the followup question is "what year". Then when I tell them they look up in the air and we play this Q&A game about the tail-yes, headlights that stick up (no not pop up), 80's first generation, single turbo blah blah. I don't enjoy playing that game and I'm sure we've all done it.
So when people ask what I drive on weekends I tell them an "old Porsche" with a very big proud smile. If they are Porsche aware I tell them a 930 turbo. I'm often asked if it is a "real 930" by Porsche people when they see the wide body and tail so that seems the quickest way to get across what it is. How identifying your car as the 30 year old model, not the latest model is being snooty is completely lost on me.
I know it seems odd that I see "911 Turbo", the accurate name as misleading but thats what happens when you have almost 40 years and many generations that use it. How confusing when a new 911 owner posts in a 911 forum and we have to tell him he is in the wrong place. Same reason, it is not that useful when identifying the cars. I prefer to keep the marketing name on my title, 930 to me is simply more useful.
But whatever you choose to use, enjoy these wonderful old Porsches
09-05-2014, 02:46 PM
#200
Former Vendor
991 Turbo kicks booty when shifting - soo quick, makes up a LOT of time.
930 truck trans not as quick :-)
AWD to boot -
Not sure my 514HP 2650 lb G50 equipped 930 could take one on
930 truck trans not as quick :-)
AWD to boot -
Not sure my 514HP 2650 lb G50 equipped 930 could take one on
09-06-2014, 09:01 PM
#201
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...and you bet, those PDKs are nasty quick.
