meiwah98

I'm looking for a 930S, 87-89. How come regular 911's prior to '89 came with 5 speeds but on a 930 5 speeds did not come availble until year '89? Something to do with being a Turbo?

Of course, I would prefer a 5 speed, but can be happy with a 4 speed in a '87 or '88..depends what comes up for sale first....

Geoffrey

Improvements to the turbo have always lagged behind the N/A versions. The 3.2 Carrera received the G50 update in 1987 and the turbo followed in 1989. The turbo gearbox G50/50 has a larger ring and pinion to handle the updated power of the turbo, so it wasn't a drop in from the Carrera. Don't forget that Porsche was entering a period of slow growth.

slownrusty

+ on Geoffery's comments. The very early to mid '90s almost saw Porsche go bankrupt.....

Yasin

JBL930

Does the 89 930 with the G50/50 still have torsion bars? And would a stock G50/50 out of an 89 car just drop straight into any 930 without any modification? Last but not least, is there anywhere that someone can buy one?

Geoffrey

1) yes
2) no, chassis is different
3) G50/50 is a one year trans and rarely found.

Norske

Actually, the 4 speed is quite a decent tranny. I had a heavily modified 88 Turbo with a G50 5 spped in it and it did fine.

onboost

Yes, the 4spd does get the job done and if you're not quite satisfied one can play with the ratios..

Heavy and costly mods to the box are required just to get a G50 into the 88 and earlier Turbos.

Falk930

Not to hijack this, but one question regarding
a G50 swap from a Carrera.
Even with shorting some parts on the G50,
is the motor slightly more to the back?

regards
Falk

meiwah98

thanks for the quick comments. I have an '02 996, 6 speed, so I am totally spoiled with 6 gears. However, I do have a 4 speed Chevelle that I love driving for the sheer "experience," even though it winds up pretty high on the freeway.

As a newbie to 930S', would I be that disappointed with a 4 speed '87-'88? Of course, limiting myself to just model year '89 930S is going narrow my selection of cars out there.... and I sense that 5 speed '89's are noticeably more expensive than 4-speeds (could be my imagination though)

Newbie question #1: what is G50/50 vs. G50?

Newbie question #2: so the N/A versions pre-'89 had 5 speeds available due to the engine output vs. turbo outputs? Pre-89 930 5 speed trannys were not developed to handle the additional horsepower?

Thanks.

Geoffrey

The G50/50 has a larger ring and pinion, but the same smaller differential that the G50 5spds all had.

Yes, Porsche upgraded the G50/02 to the G50/50 which is stronger for the turbo application. The gears are interchangable between the boxes though.

onboost

Hope that helps..

Geoffrey

I personally would not even think about owning a 4spd turbo.

Jitters

Hey there!

Fortunately, I'm a sort of newbie to the 930 as well. I bought mine last February and absolutely love the car. And yes, it has the 4 speed box. Not sure why some folks make it appear as though driving a 4 speed is much like having cooties or a third eye, but I absolutely love driving it. And I'm sure there are others who love their 4 speeds just as I do...If I were you I would try and experience driving both cars and then base your decision on what you like and not someone elses opinion.

Good luck with your search...

Jitters

nathanUK '81 930 G50

I have a G50/01 in my 930 and the engine does not appear to be any further back than the engine in my 1984 3.2 carrera that has the stock 915 tranny.

I presume my G50/01 has been shortened at the bellhousing. This is possible by replacing the rubber centred clutch with a spring centred clutch.

onboost

I understand, however for me, I personally would not even think about spending the time effort and dollars to convert to a G50. Not that there is anything at all wrong with the conversion... the 4sp does me just fine, and with the other cars I have, there is always somewhere better to spend the money..