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Old 01-02-2013, 09:33 AM
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9309801156

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Repainted red but originally an unusual paint to sample gold/yellow.

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:39 PM
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Wow...I forgot that I had those pics out there...That's been a long time ago. I still have 930.980.1156 and started the process of repainting the car back to the original color last year. Then got a new job, moved, etc. Now I am finally getting around to tearing it back apart and finishing the job.

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Originally Posted by kas930
Wow...I forgot that I had those pics out there...That's been a long time ago. I still have 930.980.1156 and started the process of repainting the car back to the original color last year. Then got a new job, moved, etc. Now I am finally getting around to tearing it back apart and finishing the job.

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Very cool indeed! Do you know if your 930 has the original engine and transmission? ’79 chassis number 1155 (one from yours) has an engine number of 6891366 (930/63, California) and transmission number 7791842 (photo below, credit eBay). I believe 1155 was 1 of 9 of the last 50 930’s delivered with California engines (366-374).

My chassis number, 1164 (silver/two-tone red/black) is only 8 away from yours so perhaps they rolled off the assembly line in the same week. By the way, what is the original color of your car?
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Four more of the last 50, ’79 930 chassis numbers posted at the 1979 Porsche 930 Turbo Registry on Facebook. This is a great site and you don’t need an account to access.

9309801163, guards red with dash plaque and F. Porsche certificate

http://www.facebook.com/pages/1979-P...type=3&theater

9309801166 black (not sure if this is the same silver 1166 I already have listed that may have been repainted black?)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/1979-P...type=3&theater

9309801194, black, with dash plaque and F. Porsche certificate

http://www.facebook.com/pages/1979-P...type=3&theater

9309801195, black metallic

http://www.facebook.com/pages/1979-P...type=3&theater
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Summary as of Jan 5, 2013:

Chassis #, exterior color/interior color
11xx, black metallic/light red (1984 Robb Report)
1155, beige/brown
1156, Talbot yellow/tan
1163, guards red/black
1164, silver metallic/two-tone light red/black
1166, silver metallic/black
1170, Talbot yellow/black
1172, black/tan
1173, anniversary color
1175, guards red/tan
1176, guards red/tan
1177, guards red/black
1185, black/black
1189, interior black
1194, black/tan
1195, black metallic/black
1200, charcoal grey metallic/two-tone brown/tan
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Originally Posted by idart930
Very cool indeed! Do you know if your 930 has the original engine and transmission? ’79 chassis number 1155 (one from yours) has an engine number of 6891366 (930/63, California) and transmission number 7791842 (photo below, credit eBay). I believe 1155 was 1 of 9 of the last 50 930’s delivered with California engines (366-374).

My chassis number, 1164 (silver/two-tone red/black) is only 8 away from yours so perhaps they rolled off the assembly line in the same week. By the way, what is the original color of your car?
I finally got around to digging up the Certificate of Authenticity for my car (930.980.1156):
Production completion date: 12/31/79
Engine Number: 6890836
Transaxle: 792055
Paint code: paint to sample/9999, the tag on the door jam says 184-9-3, I have been unsuccesful at figuring out what that code means. There is also a secondary sticker that indicates its a 2 coat enamel system.
The interior color is: cork
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Originally Posted by kas930
I finally got around to digging up the Certificate of Authenticity for my car (930.980.1156):
Production completion date: 12/31/79
Engine Number: 6890836
Transaxle: 792055
Paint code: paint to sample/9999, the tag on the door jam says 184-9-3, I have been unsuccesful at figuring out what that code means. There is also a secondary sticker that indicates its a 2 coat enamel system.
The interior color is: cork
Thanks for the info on your car. Is the date on your door VIN decal 12/79? Your chassis number is 8 before mine but your engine and transaxle numbers are quite a bit later production??

9309801155
Engine 6891366 (California)
Transmission 7791842

9309801156
Engine Number: 6890836 (49-state)
Transaxle: 7792055

9309801164
Engine 6890807 (49-state)
Transmission 7791977

Your car must be a very unusual paint to sample. I thought it might have been similar to the Talbot Yellow on 9309801170 posted on flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/
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Originally Posted by idart930
Thanks for the info on your car. Is the date on your door VIN decal 12/79? Your chassis number is 8 before mine but your engine and transaxle numbers are quite a bit later production??

9309801155
Engine 6891366 (California)
Transmission 7791842

9309801156
Engine Number: 6890836 (49-state)
Transaxle: 7792055

9309801164
Engine 6890807 (49-state)
Transmission 7791977

Your car must be a very unusual paint to sample. I thought it might have been similar to the Talbot Yellow on 9309801170 posted on flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agup627...n/photostream/
Yes, the vin sticker indicates 12/79 for the production date.

As far as the color goes, it's almost like a yellow/gold with pearl in it. Gives it a bit of glow - sort of a phosphours look.

Thanks
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I guess that answers some of the questions earlier in the thread. There have been vin numbers that were higher with build dates that are earlier.

A '79 930 with a build date of 12/79 is the latest build I have heard of. This car may be one of the last ones for that year.

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Originally Posted by jay72
I guess that answers some of the questions earlier in the thread. There have been vin numbers that were higher with build dates that are earlier.

A '79 930 with a build date of 12/79 is the latest build I have heard of. This car may be one of the last ones for that year.

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Sloane, it does look like 1156 corroborates that the chassis numbers may have not rolled off the assembly line in sequence! A well kept '79 Porsche 930 secret. 1156 does have a very high transmission/engine # to go with the 12/79 build. Only time will tell if there are more survivors of the last 50 that were built in 12/79.

kas930, can you post a photo of your landmark VIN decal?
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Originally Posted by kas930
I finally got around to digging up the Certificate of Authenticity for my car (930.980.1156):
Production completion date: 12/31/79
Engine Number: 6890836
Transaxle: 792055
Paint code: paint to sample/9999, the tag on the door jam says 184-9-3, I have been unsuccesful at figuring out what that code means. There is also a secondary sticker that indicates its a 2 coat enamel system.
The interior color is: cork
WOW! With a COA build date of 12/31/79 but with yet a US VIN of 1156 your car may well be the the answer to the statement saying that, Porsche jumbled the numbers on the last 50 to prevent the Dealers from knowing they had the LAST ONE". It appears your car may well be the last US '79. VIN's with COA's are quite invaluable. Page 132 of Michael Cotton's Porsche 911Turbo 3 and 3.3 litre; Project no. 930 shows 2021 total '79 930,s (2053 if you include 935's) and Page 284 of the 3rd Edition of Bruce Anderson's Porsche 911Performance Handbook 1963-1998 shows a total of 2020 '79 930's (2036 if you include his 935 numbers). Based on these your transaxle number of 2055 is within the bull’s-eye. Congratulations!
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Another interesting thing is that this car is a paint to sample car and the dark blue one that allegedly went to Al Holbert and was supposed to be the last was also a paint to sample...
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Originally Posted by jay72
Another interesting thing is that this car is a paint to sample car and the dark blue one that allegedly went to Al Holbert and was supposed to be the last was also a paint to sample...
True, although 1155 was also paint to sample with engine/transmission numbers that were in sequence with the chassis number (albeit a California engine).

If the dark blue paint to sample 930 that allegedly went to Al Holbert “comes out the closet” with a 12/79 build date, I don’t think a Porsche COA will help solve the mystery since they are known for so many errors. Just having a VIN decal with a 12/79 build date on a U.S. 930 is the smoking gun for 1156 and sets the bar for others to follow.
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Here's the VIN decal for 1185 with a build date of 11/79.

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Originally Posted by idart930
True, although 1155 was also paint to sample with engine/transmission numbers that were in sequence with the chassis number (albeit a California engine).

If the dark blue paint to sample 930 that allegedly went to Al Holbert “comes out the closet” with a 12/79 build date, I don’t think a Porsche COA will help solve the mystery since they are known for so many errors. Just having a VIN decal with a 12/79 build date on a U.S. 930 is the smoking gun for 1156 and sets the bar for others to follow.
I have the original certificate of ownership that I'm including as well that shows the sales date of July 1980.

From what I have read over the years, Porsche produced the chasis, but didn't assemble the cars in order of the serial numbers. 1150-1200 may not all be "the last 50 produced for the US market".
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