theiceman

from the look of it he was helping a guy put a corvette engine in a 968 , although i'm not sure of the relevance to this thread.

Amber Gramps

My first and only experience with the Porsche 968 was one of bewilderment. It's a VW Scirocco through and through. It was six years newer than my 911 but 10 years behind in technology and build quality. Now with the Vette engine, it's a mean SOB, but what an odd platform.

rayng

>100k miles
$46k
bubble?

cobalt

It sounds as though you are discounting the entire platform based on the engine which is the only thing I would say resembles anything Scirocco which I have worked on multiple times. I guess you have never been under a 944S2? The 968 is a fun car to drive and has great balance. With proper suspension work it does quite well on the track although it is limited by the engines limited ability to be improved upon. Not sure how you can compare an older 911 to a 968. Turbo charge a 968 and you have a rather formidable weapon. Comparing suspensions a 968 is light years ahead of a torsion bar 911. Don't dis the car because of one experience.

Jherriott

Yeah, well... not much to say, really :P

https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...-ls7-dyno.html

cobalt

Thanks, Now it makes sense

Sort of I guess but not sure

theiceman

I not sure I understand
isn't the 968 motor further development of the 944S2 motor ? 3.0 litre twin cam with variable valve timing ?

how can this technology be behind a single cam chain driven engine with very basic motronic fuel injection with an unintelligent fuel mapping system.

Honestly I think I am missing something. Its either product Bias or maybe I just don't understand engineering.

I like my car too but I can see past that to how engines year over year become much more technologically advanced and sophisticated.

I think Build quality is a very subjective term and reliability is a result of engine complexity and a need to stay on the cutting edge , not necessarily build quality

just my 2c.

GTgears

All this damn off topic chatter. Haha.

911Dave

I ain't sayin a word.

Amber Gramps

Guys, the electronics make Lucas look like NASA it is so poor. It completely explains why I can find 944/968/928 at Pick A Part every time I go there.

I'll leave it there. ......other than to say I grew up with an aunt that had a 924.

cobalt

Now I thoroughly agree with the 924 and I spent way too much time working on keeping an Audi 100LS running so we can get places. But a 968's electrics cannot be compared to Lucas. My 944S2 worked perfectly never any issues except from previous owner messing with things. If you want something to complain about I have a 74 Jag XJ6 waiting for you.

Sounds like you had a bad car it happens. My first 928 was a nightmare my GTS the most reliable Porsche I know.

For the record I will always be a 911 guy first and foremost but I find very few I dislike even t he 914 was a blast despite no power or brakes.

Amber Gramps

Very good friend of mine got owned by an XJS back in the day. He purchased the very first one sold in California. After taking it back to the dealer every single day the first week of ownership he told the dealership to keep it. Do not call. Do not contact. Do not want.

The 914 will land higher up on the collectibles status list than most front engine Porsche. Simple, unique, inexpensive, and most importantly engine in the back. Yet to see one at the junkyard.

cobalt

Our 74 XJ6 was towed back to the shop the first day off the showroom floor at least the 968's were reliable until people started messing with them and mileage added up.

The 914's are on the rise I am helping with another restoration now and the 6's are seeing numbers comparable to the 928GTS"s

So many 914's were parted out I cut up two myself to build one good car back in 96 and there was a time you couldn't give them away. I have seen a steady rise in the values of low mileage clean 944 turbos and S2's's along 968's. I have no doubt the right cars will be fetching double in the near future. There was a 900 mile turbo that sold for over 6 figures not that long ago.

theiceman

I had an 87 944S and it was rock solid and reliable, I found absolutely nothing wrong with the electrics and when minor things did happen it was easy to troubleshoot. I guess as pointed out you had a bad car , maybe it went for a swim. I think comparing it to Lucas is a cute " quip" but no where near accurate. The big issue of Lucas in the day was mainly due to a lack of waterproof connectors and corrosion, All manufacturers have come a long way.

Amber Gramps

I still see ten 911 for every one 944 variant. Either they didn't sell around here, or they all died an early death. Anyway, I don't think the rise in price of the 911 is a bubble. There is some exaggeration going on in some markets, but just yesterday I saw a clean '80 SC for $14,500.