Need advice on my first 911
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Need advice on my first 911
First of all, you have a great forum, lots of great topics here.
I am a car fanatic, current collection consists of muscle cars and corvettes from the 60s and early 70s. I enjoy driving my cars first and foremost, getting greater satisfaction from driving them than looking at them. My favorite cars to drive are my big block C2s.
I am looking for my first Porsche 911 and could use some advice since I haven't even driven one. I anticipate that I will appreciate the handling over the cars I currently own.
I am wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether a 69-73 911, 77-89 930 turbo, or a 95-98 993 turbo would be the best option. Assuming $150,000 or less to spend, what would it be for the best combination of driving experience, asset appreciation, and satisfaction?
I am a car fanatic, current collection consists of muscle cars and corvettes from the 60s and early 70s. I enjoy driving my cars first and foremost, getting greater satisfaction from driving them than looking at them. My favorite cars to drive are my big block C2s.
I am looking for my first Porsche 911 and could use some advice since I haven't even driven one. I anticipate that I will appreciate the handling over the cars I currently own.
I am wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether a 69-73 911, 77-89 930 turbo, or a 95-98 993 turbo would be the best option. Assuming $150,000 or less to spend, what would it be for the best combination of driving experience, asset appreciation, and satisfaction?
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Welcome to the forum! You are suggesting a pretty radical transition in driving expereince, I only say that because my 30 year dedication to the 911 platform was a transition from muscle cars of the 1960-70 era. The earlier the model 911 that you buy, the more radical the difference from what you are used to in how the engine develops it's power, and the handling characteristics. I have owned the range of models that you describe, including a 993 Turbo. The 993 Turbo would likely be the closest to the high torque, and with it's 4wd, more neutral handling characterics of the big blocks that are your favorites. If on the other hand you are looking to experience the high rpm, rear weight biased excitement of the early aircooled models, I think the 84-89 Carrera's are a good balance of these characteristics, along with practical every day reliablity, and solid performance. These are my favorites, currently owning an 86 Carrera. IMHO.
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With 150K to spend I would buy the best 993 or 964 Turbo I could find taste being what would define what body you get. I am constantly torn between the 964 and 993.
If Turbo is not your cup of tea would go for the WB version of either cars.
The 964 and 993 have plenty of power, even by today's standards, and they will hold their prices.
If Turbo is not your cup of tea would go for the WB version of either cars.
The 964 and 993 have plenty of power, even by today's standards, and they will hold their prices.
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Agree that a super nice 993 would be a great car and values are strong. That said, hard to beat a pristine 930 and sounds like funds are available to keep her that way. I came out of a Stage 1 GS with manual transmission to my 84 Carrera. Night and Day does not do the comparision justice. Love them both. I can't maintin two, so for me the clear winner in the 911. Overall, it is a true road car and true supercar. Even a race car if you desire. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Good luck.
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I guess I can weigh in on this. I have muscle cars as well as an 83 911 SC, a Cayman S and a 997.1 GT3 RS. I have also owned a 993 coupe, normally aspirated. The 993 was my first Porsche, and the ONLY car I've ever regretted selling. When I went to replace it, I wanted the ultimate Porsche. After much deliberation, I ended up with an Orange .1 RS. I have no intentions of ever selling it. However, it is not a daily driver, which led me to purchase the Cayman S which I drive the wheels off of. So, with the Cayman S as a daily driver and an RS for that special twisty road adventure, I still missed my air cooled 993. The quirkiness and character of an air cooled 911 is unique, and not replicated in the water cooled cars. With your budget and desire for a safe parking place for that $150k, I would be shopping for two cars. A 997 .1 RS and a 993 coupe. In the .1 RS, I would only consider Orange or Green, in the 993 I would consider a PTS or rare color. Good luck and welcome!
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I guess I can weigh in on this. I have muscle cars as well as an 83 911 SC, a Cayman S and a 997.1 GT3 RS. I have also owned a 993 coupe, normally aspirated. The 993 was my first Porsche, and the ONLY car I've ever regretted selling. When I went to replace it, I wanted the ultimate Porsche. After much deliberation, I ended up with an Orange .1 RS. I have no intentions of ever selling it. However, it is not a daily driver, which led me to purchase the Cayman S which I drive the wheels off of. So, with the Cayman S as a daily driver and an RS for that special twisty road adventure, I still missed my air cooled 993. The quirkiness and character of an air cooled 911 is unique, and not replicated in the water cooled cars. With your budget and desire for a safe parking place for that $150k, I would be shopping for two cars. A 997 .1 RS and a 993 coupe. In the .1 RS, I would only consider Orange or Green, in the 993 I would consider a PTS or rare color. Good luck and welcome!
Cannot got wrong with one of the last of the Mezger engine, nice wheels.
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Being a owner of only a few P Cars and currently driving a 930 CAB, I highly recommend, with that budget, a 993 Turbo and a 1989 930 Turbo with a G50 trans and with the leftover cash treat yourself to a Rolex Stainless Ceramic GMT-II and a long drive date night with a Wagyu steak and a great Napa cabernet.
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Being a owner of only a few P Cars and currently driving a 930 CAB, I highly recommend, with that budget, a 993 Turbo and a 1989 930 Turbo with a G50 trans and with the leftover cash treat yourself to a Rolex Stainless Ceramic GMT-II and a long drive date night with a Wagyu steak and a great Napa cabernet.
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1. 993 Turbo or even 993 Turbo S (or are those $150k+ now???); just based on what I am reading from the OP
2. If "I" were the buyer it would probably be a toss-up between a low mile '88 Clubsport or a non-modified '92 Carrera Cup (as we all know, there are a couple out there with less than 10k miles on them)
2. If "I" were the buyer it would probably be a toss-up between a low mile '88 Clubsport or a non-modified '92 Carrera Cup (as we all know, there are a couple out there with less than 10k miles on them)
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Thank you for all the advice. I have really been torn on this one, having contemplated the decision for over a year now. The 964 and 993 wouldn't exactly fit the rest of the collection, being 20 years newer than everything else I have, while the 69-73 long hood cars might leave me wanting more performance.
The above being said, I reached an agreement this week with Singer Vehicle Design. They will build me their 30th car, starting in the fall next year. It gives me the look of an early 70s 911 with the performance of a 993 turbo. While it is certainly more than the original budget, I don't think I will regret the decision, the car should bring me years of smiles.
Once the build is in progress I will post some pictures. Thank you again for replying and offering opinions.
The above being said, I reached an agreement this week with Singer Vehicle Design. They will build me their 30th car, starting in the fall next year. It gives me the look of an early 70s 911 with the performance of a 993 turbo. While it is certainly more than the original budget, I don't think I will regret the decision, the car should bring me years of smiles.
Once the build is in progress I will post some pictures. Thank you again for replying and offering opinions.