Porsche to the power of 4
05-20-2012, 02:26 AM
#64
Drifting
Thread Starter
thank you for all the replies. The story gets even better. So this morning Ed (Ivangene) sat next to me for a nice long drive, the firdt one on my new aquired track focused 911 and helped me work on my smoothness of operation as this car has a very short gearing and much different clutch/wevo shifter set up compared to my stock '86 coupe. The setting was right out of a total 911 like magazine write up. Winding B roads, no traffic or law enforcement authorities and nice layer of early morning fog. Windows partially let down, listening to that engine and air intake purr was just divine. The steering and suspension set up works brilliantly and gives you tons of feedback. The clutch is nothing short of amazing when you get it right and gives you the ultimate control. Ed shifted down from 5th to 2nd within a matter of 20 feet in an obnoxiuosly seamless fashion.
Ed was second guessing himself as to whether he steered me in the right direction for a pre-GT3 RS training wheel. After he saw me enjoy this great analog device on this 60 minute drive his mind was at ease.
I already told Ed that when I am
ready to move on to my RS he can
become the custodian of my trainer in 3 years. He has a hidden agenda in trying to truncate my training phase as he is not sure how long he can sit by watching this car drive past giving him the "I gotta have it" urge. He is probably thinking and wishing that I can do the RS jump in 2 years rather than my original 3 year training period.
As we parted ways, four thoughts came to my mind.
1. What a friend I have in Ed. I always strive to be nice to people and do good for others and expect nothing in return but someone always looks out for me and gives me more than what I deserve in life.
2. I am so glad I went the air-cooled route for my trainer. Yes PASM, stability management etc are great to have on the track but there is something about these cars that just gets under you skin.
3. How detrimental would it be for my progress if I drive the my '86 coupe (which demands of totally different style of clutch/gear operation) and my latest trainer car (where ths shifting and clutch mechanism are bullet speed) back to back on a regular
basis ?
4. Will I ever lust after a 3.8 GT3RS after I train in this car (have my first ever DE day set up for July 7) or will I channel those funds to an early 911s or a 365. I think Whalebird is right. The
longhoods are calling me ... will I respond to their call ?
Ed was second guessing himself as to whether he steered me in the right direction for a pre-GT3 RS training wheel. After he saw me enjoy this great analog device on this 60 minute drive his mind was at ease.
I already told Ed that when I am
ready to move on to my RS he can
become the custodian of my trainer in 3 years. He has a hidden agenda in trying to truncate my training phase as he is not sure how long he can sit by watching this car drive past giving him the "I gotta have it" urge. He is probably thinking and wishing that I can do the RS jump in 2 years rather than my original 3 year training period.
As we parted ways, four thoughts came to my mind.
1. What a friend I have in Ed. I always strive to be nice to people and do good for others and expect nothing in return but someone always looks out for me and gives me more than what I deserve in life.
2. I am so glad I went the air-cooled route for my trainer. Yes PASM, stability management etc are great to have on the track but there is something about these cars that just gets under you skin.
3. How detrimental would it be for my progress if I drive the my '86 coupe (which demands of totally different style of clutch/gear operation) and my latest trainer car (where ths shifting and clutch mechanism are bullet speed) back to back on a regular
basis ?
4. Will I ever lust after a 3.8 GT3RS after I train in this car (have my first ever DE day set up for July 7) or will I channel those funds to an early 911s or a 365. I think Whalebird is right. The
longhoods are calling me ... will I respond to their call ?
05-20-2012, 03:42 PM
#66
Parts Specialist
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
I get to play crew chief - pretty happy right here 
Amar is a quick learner and most important listens and puts suggestions right into action. I have no doubt after breakfast that he has seen the light on this car - I look forward to a long relationship - for now he is right on the mark with his confidence/ability balance
on a side note, today I drove that wonderful 86' of his and must say....what a cream puff! Absolutely a time capsule - beautiful, subtle, very well loved through and through - classic feel.
I second the notion of being kind will have some sort of unexpected consequence you would neither predict nor believe if indeed the kindness comes without expectation of such. I have really been blessed with such a friendship
Amar is a quick learner and most important listens and puts suggestions right into action. I have no doubt after breakfast that he has seen the light on this car - I look forward to a long relationship - for now he is right on the mark with his confidence/ability balance
on a side note, today I drove that wonderful 86' of his and must say....what a cream puff! Absolutely a time capsule - beautiful, subtle, very well loved through and through - classic feel.
I second the notion of being kind will have some sort of unexpected consequence you would neither predict nor believe if indeed the kindness comes without expectation of such. I have really been blessed with such a friendship
05-20-2012, 11:22 PM
#67
Amar, Good to meet you last week and thanks for the unexpected treat! I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed your maiden drive with the new track car. Thanks for sharing the experience.
Ed, Amar's 86 is indeed very well-preserved and it's nice to see it being driven as it should. But yours is not bad either, except for the reversible track improvements you've made.
Ed, Amar's 86 is indeed very well-preserved and it's nice to see it being driven as it should. But yours is not bad either, except for the reversible track improvements you've made.
05-23-2012, 11:34 AM
#68
Race Car
wOOt...I love this car, and love the way it came to you. I think you made a great choice and will advance rapidly. You may find that the performance gap (perceived) between a T-bar car and a GT3 will close as YOU increase in technique I dare say this new car will leave a lot on the table for you to claim as you get more aggressive.
Get to the track now, perhaps plan an event that you and Ed can do together. It will help if you have somebody who knows the protocol at the track (and maybe hold a stopwatch during your laps). A support "camp" is HUGE at the track.
Resist the track tire allure as long as possible...street tires will be plenty. R-compounds will obscure the development of bad habits, and when you do approach their limits without a sence of what can happen...it's to late. Also, they benefit from a more agressive 'set up' that will not play nice on the street. You will be overloaded with variables in your technique, chassis dynamics, and mechanical operations for quite some time and will take time to balance out. A conservative approach nets the biggest gains (like many things in life).
I didn't see mention of oil cooler. Make sure you have a good one in that slot up front and keep an eye on oil temp at the track, especially as ambient temps go up this season.
Once again, you made an excellent choice w00t. As did you Ed...you chose (choose) kindness and that has shone a warm light on all our community. Thank you.
Get to the track now, perhaps plan an event that you and Ed can do together. It will help if you have somebody who knows the protocol at the track (and maybe hold a stopwatch during your laps). A support "camp" is HUGE at the track.
Resist the track tire allure as long as possible...street tires will be plenty. R-compounds will obscure the development of bad habits, and when you do approach their limits without a sence of what can happen...it's to late. Also, they benefit from a more agressive 'set up' that will not play nice on the street. You will be overloaded with variables in your technique, chassis dynamics, and mechanical operations for quite some time and will take time to balance out. A conservative approach nets the biggest gains (like many things in life).
I didn't see mention of oil cooler. Make sure you have a good one in that slot up front and keep an eye on oil temp at the track, especially as ambient temps go up this season.
Once again, you made an excellent choice w00t. As did you Ed...you chose (choose) kindness and that has shone a warm light on all our community. Thank you.
05-23-2012, 01:26 PM
#69
I get to play crew chief - pretty happy right here
Amar is a quick learner and most important listens and puts suggestions right into action. I have no doubt after breakfast that he has seen the light on this car - I look forward to a long relationship - for now he is right on the mark with his confidence/ability balance
Amar is a quick learner and most important listens and puts suggestions right into action. I have no doubt after breakfast that he has seen the light on this car - I look forward to a long relationship - for now he is right on the mark with his confidence/ability balance
(I borrowed this from the racing forum. Definitively worth watching for any race car driver wanna-be)
05-24-2012, 08:04 AM
#70
Rennlist Member
Hey Amar,
When you get a few minutes, check this thread out on the Early S Forum if you haven't seen it already. NE Mountain Melee May 18-20 It's a long thread, photos from the actual event start around page 27. I bet it will make you want to get into an early 911; it's sure pushing me in that direction, and now I'm actively looking for projects which I need like a hole in the head.
Lots of (mostly) early cars, out for a 1000 mile romp through northern NH - my backyard, no less - what better weekend could there be, and what better car for it?
Audi
When you get a few minutes, check this thread out on the Early S Forum if you haven't seen it already. NE Mountain Melee May 18-20 It's a long thread, photos from the actual event start around page 27. I bet it will make you want to get into an early 911; it's sure pushing me in that direction, and now I'm actively looking for projects which I need like a hole in the head.
Lots of (mostly) early cars, out for a 1000 mile romp through northern NH - my backyard, no less - what better weekend could there be, and what better car for it?
Audi
10-28-2012, 10:00 PM
#71
Drifting
Thread Starter
Whale Bird, Ed Hughes et al.
I sold my 3.2 and the track car. The decision to sell the track car was an easy one as my job situation changed dramatically last year leaving me with no or very little time to track. I struggled a lot with my 3.2. On one hand when will I ever find a prisitine all original unmolested 3.2 with all service records dating back to the first oil change. One that I enjoyed driving so much. On the other hand it is a car that needed to be driven and although I did enjoy driving it over the pass, each time I saw a teenager texting behind my back I worried about the chances I was taking with this car (my wife still believes its strong body can handle everything thrown at it). I was no longer able to drive it within my small town (which was the primary purpose I got it) with some nice empty backroads as my living situation changed. Add to that is the allure of a pre-73 SWB 911: The elegant simplicity (the long hood, basket weave vinyl trim on the lower half of the dashboard, durant side mirrors, green gauges, push button extrerior door handle, PORSCHE badging on the engine decklid and the stylish 911 lettering, hockey puck center horn on that large steering wheel) made me part with my 3.2. What a joyful 10 K miles. I sold it to a friend and have a contract with first right of refusal. Who knows what will happen.
For now please enjoy your own w00t's latest thread.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=76429
I sold my 3.2 and the track car. The decision to sell the track car was an easy one as my job situation changed dramatically last year leaving me with no or very little time to track. I struggled a lot with my 3.2. On one hand when will I ever find a prisitine all original unmolested 3.2 with all service records dating back to the first oil change. One that I enjoyed driving so much. On the other hand it is a car that needed to be driven and although I did enjoy driving it over the pass, each time I saw a teenager texting behind my back I worried about the chances I was taking with this car (my wife still believes its strong body can handle everything thrown at it). I was no longer able to drive it within my small town (which was the primary purpose I got it) with some nice empty backroads as my living situation changed. Add to that is the allure of a pre-73 SWB 911: The elegant simplicity (the long hood, basket weave vinyl trim on the lower half of the dashboard, durant side mirrors, green gauges, push button extrerior door handle, PORSCHE badging on the engine decklid and the stylish 911 lettering, hockey puck center horn on that large steering wheel) made me part with my 3.2. What a joyful 10 K miles. I sold it to a friend and have a contract with first right of refusal. Who knows what will happen.
For now please enjoy your own w00t's latest thread.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=76429
10-28-2012, 10:14 PM
#72
Rennlist Member
Congrats Amar! Is that the same one you were looking at when we last spoke? I remember that had minimalist specs.
I know exactly what you mean by lack of time...
I know exactly what you mean by lack of time...
10-28-2012, 11:02 PM
#74
Rennlist Member
Ha!-been on the road non-stop the last 5 weeks, and headed off again early in the morning. I'm fairly worn out. To top that off, we sold our house and have been trying to find the "right one". Our expectations based on what we're used to have been hard to meet. But, we actually made offers on two today-one our prime target, the other a contingency. Once I get through this week, I hope to be able to get my life back...and get ready to move!
I can't complain, business is good.
I can't complain, business is good.
