Porsche to the power of 4
#47
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Thank you for all the kind comments. Ivangene's (Ed) car started it all .... Honestly. That beautiful car while remain etched in my memory forever. Now this second air-cooled air is a direct byproduct of my long lasting friendship w/ its owner.
#48
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Little history about my track car (notes from the owner)
" Amar, the car's project began in 1999 as a Driver's Ed car for PCA. An interesting phenomena was occurring to the car as its then owner's skill set improved. The car was upgraded "as needed" to allow driver growth. By 2002, the car was "completed" and presented to PCA and SCCA for racing log book inspections which require a full custom roll cage, external engine kill switch, racing driver seat with adjustable seat back brace attached to the roll cage, and a recommended, but not required fire extinguisher mount. To compete in the stock classes of those two sanctioning bodies, the car had to remain street legal.That requirement helped retain the car's aesthetic value and beautiful appearance. The car has been driven less than 10K miles since it was purchased in late 1998 and was actually raced just a handful of times over five seasons. It won most of those races in its class as the trophy and flag collection would attest to.
The engine was completely overhauled and upgraded to European specifications in 2005 and has less than 5k miles on it since that work. The transmission was overhauled and customized in 2008 and has custom gear sets, special short ratio ring and pinion, and perhaps the best part is the Kaz multi-plate limited slip differential for tremendous traction in all situations! All final drive components, axles, c-v joints,wheel bearings, and even the side differential cover have been replaced and upgraded to insure strength and longevity. The shifting is aided with a Wevo shifter and coupler to help the driver not miss a shift while enjoying sport driving.
The 993 Twin Turbo "Big Red" brakes keep the car under control for fast descents on the speedometer. 8 1/2 " and 10 " wide wheels have race spec tires with soft compound rubber to complete the handling provided by Fox canister reservoir shocks and Tarret adjustable anti-sway bars. Monoball suspension pick up points are installed to maintain alignment settings under extreme stress during cornering. The improvements continue throughout the car and require a short book to cover them all, but it all ads up to a beautiful, exciting, safe, and fun ride "
I know this may not be the purist's choice (i.e. since it is a wide body), but this is the closest I could get to for my dream training wheels. if I learn 911 handling dynamics on a car like this, my expectation and hope is that it will teach me exactly how to handle a GT3 - the same reflexes will be developed and perfected over many hours of practice.
" Amar, the car's project began in 1999 as a Driver's Ed car for PCA. An interesting phenomena was occurring to the car as its then owner's skill set improved. The car was upgraded "as needed" to allow driver growth. By 2002, the car was "completed" and presented to PCA and SCCA for racing log book inspections which require a full custom roll cage, external engine kill switch, racing driver seat with adjustable seat back brace attached to the roll cage, and a recommended, but not required fire extinguisher mount. To compete in the stock classes of those two sanctioning bodies, the car had to remain street legal.That requirement helped retain the car's aesthetic value and beautiful appearance. The car has been driven less than 10K miles since it was purchased in late 1998 and was actually raced just a handful of times over five seasons. It won most of those races in its class as the trophy and flag collection would attest to.
The engine was completely overhauled and upgraded to European specifications in 2005 and has less than 5k miles on it since that work. The transmission was overhauled and customized in 2008 and has custom gear sets, special short ratio ring and pinion, and perhaps the best part is the Kaz multi-plate limited slip differential for tremendous traction in all situations! All final drive components, axles, c-v joints,wheel bearings, and even the side differential cover have been replaced and upgraded to insure strength and longevity. The shifting is aided with a Wevo shifter and coupler to help the driver not miss a shift while enjoying sport driving.
The 993 Twin Turbo "Big Red" brakes keep the car under control for fast descents on the speedometer. 8 1/2 " and 10 " wide wheels have race spec tires with soft compound rubber to complete the handling provided by Fox canister reservoir shocks and Tarret adjustable anti-sway bars. Monoball suspension pick up points are installed to maintain alignment settings under extreme stress during cornering. The improvements continue throughout the car and require a short book to cover them all, but it all ads up to a beautiful, exciting, safe, and fun ride "
I know this may not be the purist's choice (i.e. since it is a wide body), but this is the closest I could get to for my dream training wheels. if I learn 911 handling dynamics on a car like this, my expectation and hope is that it will teach me exactly how to handle a GT3 - the same reflexes will be developed and perfected over many hours of practice.
#49
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That3.8 tail is nice. Probably very effective on the car and somehow looks in place. I've driven several such cars with that tail and it does glue the *** down surprisingly. Do the research but don't discount it.
#50
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Whalebird, the owner specifically asked me not to touch that tail. Do you like the car ? I feel like a kid in the candy store and my parents are all right here in this section.
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#52
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Mike...this is an interesting psychological phenomenon isnt it
the fact that mclaudio (Mike) sold me the 996 and then 2 years later traded me the 3.2 for the 996 he sold me, means there is more to these relationships than skin deep. I guess to Amar you are a tier above - an oracle of sorts
the fact that mclaudio (Mike) sold me the 996 and then 2 years later traded me the 3.2 for the 996 he sold me, means there is more to these relationships than skin deep. I guess to Amar you are a tier above - an oracle of sorts
#53
Oracle? That might be pushing it. :-)
I'm happy to witness the enthusiasm flourish and mature via some mad driving skills!
I'm happy to witness the enthusiasm flourish and mature via some mad driving skills!
#54
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I know this may not be the purist's choice (i.e. since it is a wide body), but this is the closest I could get to for my dream training wheels. if I learn 911 handling dynamics on a car like this, my expectation and hope is that it will teach me exactly how to handle a GT3 - the same reflexes will be developed and perfected over many hours of practice.
But don't kid yourself--anything you figure out about this car will have about as much application toward any of the 964-and-beyond cars as would mastering a Spec Miata, then moving to a "late model" 911 variant. Remember the thread/video of me driving Ruby at AMP just after I picked it up from Ed? 10+ years since I'd spent a day in a torsion bar car. If I didn't still have some rusty bullets in my holster about how to drive a torsion bar car I would have been: 1. slow, and/or 2. erratic. Eight days later at Laguna in the 993? Back to hard into the ABS trail braking, slam the gas and the *** end sticks driving.
So here's to spending the time developing the early 911 skill. And no matter where your interest takes you, you'll have the pleasure of knowing how far the platform has been developed.
Nitpicky question on the car's description above. Where was the car raced in SCCA in a "stock class"? There is no such thing in SCCA Regionals, and in ITE all that's required is a tub and DOT tires. (And I'm guessing the car wasn't run in PCA Club Racing in any Stock or Prepared class after that regear!)
#56
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I pulled the tail off the yellow car one time. Data showed no measurable difference in both high speed (90+ min apex) turns at Thunderhill at my skill level. (Was trying to get some decent backward video, which the RS wing blocks.)
#58
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Actually, I don't think I'd be thinking too much about period correct if I were in your shoes...
The 3.8 wing works well with those Kinesis wheels and the fiberglass front air dam. Add in the huge, red brakes and it all looks pretty right as it sits. Putting on a period RSR tail or an IROC tail would not appreciably affect the genuine aura of the car, to my mind that is...
I know that you have a perfectionist streak and like your cars to look top-notch (I can relate...). However, with this car, I would try hard to ignore any minor cosmetic issues for a while and enjoy learning how to most effectively drive it. You then can put a few minor scrapes on it without cringing too much!!
The 3.8 wing works well with those Kinesis wheels and the fiberglass front air dam. Add in the huge, red brakes and it all looks pretty right as it sits. Putting on a period RSR tail or an IROC tail would not appreciably affect the genuine aura of the car, to my mind that is...
I know that you have a perfectionist streak and like your cars to look top-notch (I can relate...). However, with this car, I would try hard to ignore any minor cosmetic issues for a while and enjoy learning how to most effectively drive it. You then can put a few minor scrapes on it without cringing too much!!
#59
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Actually, I don't think I'd be thinking too much about period correct if I were in your shoes...
The 3.8 wing works well with those Kinesis wheels and the fiberglass front air dam. Add in the huge, red brakes and it all looks pretty right as it sits. Putting on a period RSR tail or an IROC tail would not appreciably affect the genuine aura of the car, to my mind that is...
I know that you have a perfectionist streak and like your cars to look top-notch (I can relate...). However, with this car, I would try hard to ignore any minor cosmetic issues for a while and enjoy learning how to most effectively drive it. You then can put a few minor scrapes on it without cringing too much!!
The 3.8 wing works well with those Kinesis wheels and the fiberglass front air dam. Add in the huge, red brakes and it all looks pretty right as it sits. Putting on a period RSR tail or an IROC tail would not appreciably affect the genuine aura of the car, to my mind that is...
I know that you have a perfectionist streak and like your cars to look top-notch (I can relate...). However, with this car, I would try hard to ignore any minor cosmetic issues for a while and enjoy learning how to most effectively drive it. You then can put a few minor scrapes on it without cringing too much!!
#60
My understanding is this is why Porsche developed the extreme wings that a lot of the race cars have, they needed to get the wing above the roof line so that the wing was not in the "dirty" air or turbulant air caused by the roof