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Old 01-08-2009, 06:45 PM
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TRE is about 30 minutes or more away from me, whereas Andial is about 3 minutes I was just suggested by a good friend to go to Weiner and will be doing so this weekend. Im debating between a few different engine upgrades/swaps right now and want to talk technical with someone face to face. I appreciate everyones help here.
Old 01-08-2009, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vinceqn
TRE is about 30 minutes or more away from me, whereas Andial is about 3 minutes I was just suggested by a good friend to go to Weiner and will be doing so this weekend. Im debating between a few different engine upgrades/swaps right now and want to talk technical with someone face to face. I appreciate everyones help here.
.....As in get on a plane or take a long drive, or ????
Ya know what is really fun? Call Steve's shop at like 10:00PM his time. He fires up cars on the dyno when the neighbors are gone and WOW, what a sound. It sounds like the old Ontario Motor Speedway. He just keeps talking like nothing is going on. I was thinking of yelling "INCOMING" and he just keeps on talking.
Old 01-10-2009, 01:32 PM
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Unless you are racing in a class that prevents the use of a later engine, the only legitimate reason I ever deduced for hot rodding a 3.2 engine to 3.5/3.6/3.7 was so that the shop who were doing the job could make far more money out of the customer than they could if they did an engine change. Just do the maths on what it costs to build a 3.6 twin plug 3.6 engine from your 3.2 and remember to add in the twin plenum 3.6 manifold and sequential engine management, then compare it to the price of a low miles 964 or 993 engine minus the money you get for selling the outgoing 3.2 lump. It's a no brainer, honestly - I know as I did the former with my own 911SC and would never make the same mistake again. I have also made this recommendation to potential customers in the past who at the time ignored my advise, only to call me two years later to tell me they wished they had listened because their $20,000 carburettored 3.5 made only 250hp and ran 15mpg.
Old 01-10-2009, 06:18 PM
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I kinda like the piece of mind knowing my engine is fresh. Fresh bearings, fresh valve guides, ARP rod bolts, fresh rockers and seals. There is some piece of mind with that and while I may not have the down low torque of a 3.6 - I do have an engine that does ok, especially on the top end.
Old 01-11-2009, 07:26 AM
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Colin,
Considering a 2.8 RSR look to a project car, I know the 964RS I have produces enough for me at around 300bhp. Would the 3.6 unit be a fairly easy swop into a 3.2 Super Sport body with the exisitng1987 G-50 box, or would I need to get a matching era of engine and box and then sell on the exisiting cars bits?
I want the external look of the 70's but a lightweight modern take inside.
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Originally Posted by g-50cab
I kinda like the piece of mind knowing my engine is fresh. Fresh bearings, fresh valve guides, ARP rod bolts, fresh rockers and seals. There is some piece of mind with that and while I may not have the down low torque of a 3.6 - I do have an engine that does ok, especially on the top end.
I know where you are coming from, I thought the same way when I did my engine. I also respect that for some there is no substitute for the knowledge that they have rebuilt and tweeked their original engine. Just don't overlook the fact that the cost of rebuilding either the standard 964/993 3.6 for new rings, guides & bearings will be pretty much the same as the 3.2 so the real cost of the upgrade is a choice between the price of the 3.6 engine minus the sale of the 3.2 versus the cost of pistons, cylinders, cams, porting, etc. for the 3.2 engine.
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Originally Posted by Barty964rst
Colin,
Considering a 2.8 RSR look to a project car, I know the 964RS I have produces enough for me at around 300bhp. Would the 3.6 unit be a fairly easy swop into a 3.2 Super Sport body with the exisitng1987 G-50 box, or would I need to get a matching era of engine and box and then sell on the exisiting cars bits?
I want the external look of the 70's but a lightweight modern take inside.
I think the 964 or 993 engine is the perfect choice of 300hp power plant for the early 911. Show me any other modified 300hp early 911 engine that returns 30mpg on a run and is just as at home on the track or driving to the shops.

The conversion is fairly straightforward, you can match the 3.2 to the original G50 gearbox with a custom flywheel (made from the original 3.2 one), with easy modification the 3.2 tinware fit the 3.6 as well, use the 3.2 exhaust & oil scavenge pipe.... all pretty standard stuff really.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NineMeister
I think the 964 or 993 engine is the perfect choice of 300hp power plant for the early 911. Show me any other modified 300hp early 911 engine that returns 30mpg on a run and is just as at home on the track or driving to the shops.

The conversion is fairly straightforward, you can match the 3.2 to the original G50 gearbox with a custom flywheel (made from the original 3.2 one), with easy modification the 3.2 tinware fit the 3.6 as well, use the 3.2 exhaust & oil scavenge pipe.... all pretty standard stuff really.
Colin,
Many thanks for answering my query and pleased to see my cunning plan will work ok. I admire your ease in explaning the swop you make it sound 'so strightforward'
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Originally Posted by Barty964rst
Colin,
Many thanks for answering my query and pleased to see my cunning plan will work ok. I admire your ease in explaning the swop you make it sound 'so strightforward'
It is. Just pick up the 'phone, dial 9m and book it in with Paul or Peter. Job done.



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