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Old 08-08-2017, 07:31 AM
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Hi..what i meant is you have to look at the pedal cluster and the possibly broken cross-shaft pin.I said nothing about rust;-)it looks clean that area around the pedals..
So just do one thing before removing.Pull the clutch pedal back and see if the cross-shaft on the end where the clutch connects to is moving with it.I know you said you did it but now since we know the cable is ok.... there is your culprit ....
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it will look like this or it stil has the broken pin in it

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Hi Ivan, I could send you a video. Yes when I pull the pedal back and then push it back down to the floor the shaft moves and moves the connection where the cable and retainer pin would be connected to the clutch cable. I don't think I need to remove the pedal cluster. Is there anything I can move toward the back at the transmission to test that area? If I put the cable back in and adjust the cable would that possibly be the issue?
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:43 AM
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well. the only other thing is your clutch fork as i have mentioned before...the reason is that your clutch arm is not in the correct position on that picture..above
I am doing the same job now have a look at the position of the end of the cross shaft towards the pedal ..is angle the same as yours .From your picture i cannot see it.

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If it suddenly snapped and dropped to the floor it's unlikely. Ivan is trying to get you to make sure it's not the pedal end as it's really hard to see under there.
If you put it all back together, make the adjustment , and you still have 1 inch of throw when you move the pedal up and down. ( I tested mine by putting my phone under there and recording it ) , and you find the pedal still drops and it won't engage, im thinking at this point broken shift fork
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Hi again, ok makes sense, I see what you mean. I will double check it again tonight after work, at this point I would welcome a broken pin over the clutch fork! I'll let you know my findings. Appreciate all the help and photos.
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Originally Posted by rscone11
Hi again, ok makes sense, I see what you mean. I will double check it again tonight after work, at this point I would welcome a broken pin over the clutch fork! I'll let you know my findings. Appreciate all the help and photos.
i sent you a PM
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Originally Posted by proporsche
Hi...it really looks like the cross-shaft pin is cut position on the cross-shaft level is right when you look at the cable and clevis but the pedal is on the floor.
When you move the pedal is the other end moving??
Iceman the thing is the position of the omega spring on his picture is not normal have a look here
http://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techart...large/pic2.JPG

yeah you are right Ivan I just took a close look at a blown up pic on a big monitor . This is a very good sign .. I can barely see resting spot for the helper arm and its not on it. I couldn't see it on the phone. but I see it now . this is a very good sign belive it or not.
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ok, I got a few more photos, adding the helper spring and then the pedal cluster which appears very solid, no play and I am unable to make the pedal move without the connection to the cable, very solid movement.






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you CANNOT assess rust without removing the cluster

see this:
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ok, I will check it out, the clutch pedal shaft is very solid, the linkage stays even with the clutch pedal when I move it up and down.
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it's a periodic maintenance item - every 20-30 years

get new bushings - I use the bronze ones and soak them in oil for a couple of days first - use one of your wife's wine glasses...

girly men use plastic bushings
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will do thanks r911.
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Hi Ivan, Iceman has been emailing me most the day and we found out the omega spring flipped around, I have it back in place now but the adjusting gap is much larger and I doubt I can adjust it much. Picture attached.
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As you have very little to lose I would say try throwing the new cable on and adjust it to 1mm at that bolt
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hi ..there is a stop on the bracket on which the clutch rests If this stop is bend what you see is this clutch arm too far back.The bracket has a L shape stop like this....Take the bracket off and make the stop strait.The shaft which is on top of Omega spring 1. has to rest on the number 2.



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