usctrojanGT3

What morons are paying that much for a supped up Corolla when you can get a BMW/Audi/Benz for that kind of money. Just more proof that the general public are stupid sheep.

Zhao

Prices are pretty wonky still but I do see it changing. Some manufacturers really jacked up MSRP, while others haven't. Some manufacturer dealers really play games while other's don't. I think there are less games with the luxury brands because they're generally selling to people above average intelligence and people who make wiser decisions and are purchasing out of want not need. I have a friend who goes though a million vehicles and put deposits down on multiple small suvs at once and was just going to buy what showed up first, crv, rav4, and something else (i forget). They all played games trying to extract more money when it arrived thinking he'd be forced to buy it as most people aren't flexible with car situations. He ended up buying none of them and bought a temp car and onto the next batch of orders to see if dealers will screw with him on delivery.

I decided to just wait rather then replace my wife's car. I ended up buying a hatchback 130i as a beater for winter which so far I'm really enjoying and gave my wife my car to drive. Pretty sure by the end of this year it'll make sense to buy new again. Even if I didn't buy that 1 series I could just drive my truck, and in summer I'll probably switch between my truck, my gt4 and my rx7, although I started to look at 997's as it looks like I can get one of those for 40g and I might DD one of those for part of next year since I always wanted one and then trade it in on something new. People looking at base model corollas generally don't have that kind of flexibility.

poofyo101

They can ask whatever they want. Those cars are not worth that and many dealers are coming down on the price or offering good customers for MSRP now.
I have been offered 4 G63 for MSRP in the last 4 months now. Much different market for G than it was just 8 months ago.

Bents

Unless you’re a special customer of theirs, would you mind PMing me where you were offered G63s at MSRP? I’ve been trying to find an MSRP deal. Many thanks!

ilovegt

go check out the Lambo forum for yourself. You will find the answer there.

nixsky

Sorry man. But I don’t agree with you here, Toyota have produced some decent cars of late. Notably the GR Yaris. They’ve also started a movement to turn away from the EV path - which as the biggest car maker in the world is pretty significant and potentially impactful. Still, best hot hatch on the market IMO is the 7.5 Golf R.

ipse dixit

This, so much this.

A GR Corolla is not your typical Toyota. Heck, it's not even your typical hot hatch.

And there is nothing, literally nothing, that Audi, BMW or [insert any European car marque] makes currently at any price point that even comes close to GR Corolla.

I just wish Toyota made the Yaris for the North America market. But alas, at least we have the GR Corolla.

nixsky

Having owned an F82 M4 before my first GT4, I can honestly say I’d never buy another BMW again. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the thing. But, for the amount they cost, the build quality just isn’t there. Whilst the GT4 felt like the price tag, the M4 absolutely didn’t. Interior was awful, literally creaked as it was cheap n’ nasty and only held in with clips. Not to mention the random error codes etc…

dnimi123

I paid about 5% UNDER msrp for my 2021 GT4 in Jan 2021. And thank goodness cause I’ve dumped $20k plus in fixing the darn thing… it’s now pretty good, but at anything over it’s an even worse bang for buck.

nixsky

Sorry to go off topic, but what was wrong with it pls? Was it second hand? Struggling to understand what it’s cost you so much, surely that’s what warranty is for?

lilbza

Uhh ohhh, here we go!

dub

The ADM is a pretty touchy thing and different for everyone. For me, it's my first Porsche, a dream car, one of the greatest drivers cars every produced by the majority of knowledgeable reviewers, and I wanted to spec new.
Unless something crazy life-wise happens, it will be a forever car that I hand off to my son.
I will have to work 6-7-ish extra days for the ADM. So, I'm not really getting robbed, I'm just pimping myself out for a week!

dnimi123

Ill save everyone the headache! Just search for my posts... or PM me!

dnimi123

at $20k per week you should be driving something better... unless this is your 'beater'!

dub

Lol, sorry I should have been more specific...OT pay!