ExMB

Why do so many fail to understand that regardless if the OEM raises prices, dealers will still attach their ADM. Its a fact. Just look on the GT3 forum. Same argument over the years didn't stop ADMs.

TXshaggy

GM didn’t say NOT charge ADM, they simply said tell customer upfront…lol.

“Providing customers misinformation about additional sums being necessary for a customer to keep a reservation, is just one example of a tactic that reflects poorly on all of us.”

pfbz

Agree it's largely bark not bite. Ford also did something similar a few weeks ago, specifically calling out the F150 Lightning EV.

KLCC 88

Yes and most dealers could say MSRP....Manufacturer's "SUGGESTED" Retail Price....and not MManufacturer's Retail Price...will be difficult to fix commerce when it's already out of control..

G.Irish

They mentioned a number of things, from selling to brokers, to adding extra fees to the GM reservation process, to big markups:


Who knows what 'far in excess' means here. I doubt GM is gonna crack down on dealers for a 10% markup on a Z06, but $50k+ might raise some ire. Ultimately for dealer behavior to change GM would have to issue some clear guidance like, 'Dealers are free to price cars however they wish, but markups in excess of 25% will result in allocations being shifted to other dealerships'.

I'll be watching this one with popcorn. Could be a nothingburger, or could be a great thing for enthusiasts.

TXshaggy

That all came out of their legal department. It would have been easy to say no ADM, but no where did it say that.

Unfortunately both GM and Ford are flipping cars through brokers and asking for ADM after the fact…even with “contracts” are in place.

Happening everyday on the Bronco Forum.

Porsche at least tells you upfront and that’s ethical customer communication.

These memos and discussions happen every hot car launch.

ExMB

So other than VIPs has anybody come forward yet with a confirmed order which includes commission number?

Sharm

So now that allocs are coming in, when can the first deliveries be expected?

Knutsm01

And a v200 status on the order which is delivery date determined.

ExMB

SOS is 6/17 based on posts on here.

gtr

I was told under 600 units this year. Does this sound correct? What is everyone estimated build dates?

usctrojanGT3

Sounds about right, given that some on here report that their dealers got a few allocations. So we can assume that they'll build at least 2000-3000 US GT4RSs if they build for 2.5 years...build baby build!

Johnauto

I have a commission number for a GT4 RS but no allocation. Order was submitted to Porsche in November. Do I have any chance for a car?

cjhooper

I had an order confirmed today at a west coast dealer and was told first builds will be in June so would come a few weeks after that into the U.S.

gtr

From my understanding you need V200 which is the allocation with determined delivery date.