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Old 09-20-2020, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
Why sell something he hates so much? Just burn it to the ground.
Just send it to me. I'll take care of the POS properly!☺
Old 09-20-2020, 07:47 PM
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Can someone clarify if the 718 GT4 has exhaust sounds piped into the cabin? If so can it be defeated easily?

Had a very brief drive of a new 718 GT4 and while hubby thought it sounded better than my 981 GT4, I disagreed although it sounded okay to me and better than expected.

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Old 09-20-2020, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
The torque difference in the 718GT4 between manual and PDK is totally immaterial, so a 30-70 run should be exactly the same if both start in the correct gear. Transmission should have absolutely nothing to do with any of this unless the driver starts in the wrong gear. A PDK car isn’t going to spin up any faster than a manual.
Agree the torque difference is immaterial but the long 1st and 2nd gears are precisely why there is no optimal gear for 30 mph. ( where we spend a lot of time) The transmission has everything to do with it.

The PDK has different gearing.
Old 09-20-2020, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Semitone
Agree the torque difference is immaterial but the long 1st and 2nd gears are precisely why there is no optimal gear for 30 mph. ( where we spend a lot of time) The transmission has everything to do with it.

The PDK has different gearing.
It still doesn’t matter, because you’ll be in first gear in either car and both cars will pull near identically from there. There is no way anybody’s butt dyno could tell the difference.

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Old 09-20-2020, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7ml
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I'll hold out to see how the GT4 RS turns out. I'm hoping it will be faster, shorter gearing, better sounding and a bang out of the PDK gear box.
I'm guessing you're in Europe. So, you already knew of OPF/GPF issues. Regardless, I sympathize with your predicament. I can't speak for acceleration since I haven't driven a 982; but, you have other Porsches. You already know that succeeding generations of a model are evolutionary. So, the acceleration wasn't gonna be significantly different from 981 gen. I believe both gens have the same power-to-weight ratio, aside from improved mid-range torque. As for the sound, there're mitigating solutions; but, you aren't interested in them. So, you're out of options! To be fair, you are NOT gonna find any new car from any manufacturer, pretty much, that will sound as good as just the preceding model. Those days are over.

So, your best bet is to find an older model, as you seem to be leaning toward. Aside from 964, my personal choice would be 991.2 GT3. It should check all the boxes. However, GT4 RS would be another mistake! Sure, it would be faster, especially with PDK, by about 0.5 - 1.0 S. But, it will "not" sound any better! From some of the testing videos I've seen of 992 GT3 and 992 GTS, the sound was super awful! OPF/GPF is good for the environment; but, a sound killer. But, overall, a good sound from stock specs are dead! So, you're better off cutting the losses and moving on from 982.

Originally Posted by Semitone
Agreed, but this is the entire problem with the long gearing. I passed on the 718 NA-MT specifically because I don't want to drive around in 2nd ALL THE TIME. I have a 987S which has slightly better gearing and it is still primarily a 1,2,6 car. ..............

Personally, I've never found the perfect car. All cars have their shortcomings. It's just a matter of what you want to live with. If the car doesn't do it for you have to bite the bullet and move on. I thought I was going to buy a 992 but ended up coming home with an Aston Martin Vantage instead. ............ There is life after Porsche.
Well said! Would you mind posting a review of Vantage in Other Marque Discussions sub forum? Thanks.
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Old 09-20-2020, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Semitone
Agreed, but this is the entire problem with the long gearing. I passed on the 718 NA-MT specifically because I don't want to drive around in 2nd ALL THE TIME.
You drive around banging your car off the rev limiter all day?
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I spend zero time near 30mph and in 1st gear in both my 6gt3 and my 987.1 Boxster S. I spend 70% of time in 3rd, 15% in 4th, and the rest equally split between 2,5, and 6th. Actually, would be nice if the car kept track of this statistics in its memory.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
You should sell it.

Laughable post. You think a 981 Cayman S is quicker off the line than a 718 GT4? And a Testarossa? A 5+ second car to 60 feels faster than your GT4?

And you spent all the money on a GT4 for sound and 0-60 times?

This has to be a troll thread.
Yes, total troll or the OP is bored and attempting to bait some us into a response.. oh, that's a Troll
Old 09-20-2020, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
Can someone clarify if the 718 GT4 has exhaust sounds piped into the cabin? If so can it be defeated easily?

Had a very brief drive of a new 718 GT4 and while hubby thought it sounded better than my 981 GT4, I disagreed although it sounded okay to me and better than expected.
Engine sound is piped into the cabin, literally, as in there’s a pipe bringing engine compartment noises into the cabin. It’s called the Sound Symposer, and it’s different from the Soundaktor on the four cylinder models (which is essentially a speaker playing engine noises).

There is a flap on this pipe that controls how much sound comes in, and I believe its control is related to the sport exhaust setting, though like the muffler flaps, it’s not a simple always on/off logic.
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^ thank you
Old 09-20-2020, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
You drive around banging your car off the rev limiter all day?
I thought you had a 718 Spyder?

If so, this is a rather peculiar thing to say. Your redline is probably around 85mph. Even in my 987 I think redline in 2nd is around 72 mph.

Most of my driving is backroad. On the highway , I typically just shift into 6th and cruise.

Backroads I typically keep my revs in the 4K-6k range. Near the powerband but still rather far from redline.

For me to be in the powerband and in third gear, I would guess I would need to be doing at least 65mph. Rather infrequent on twisty backroads and pointless on the highway.








Old 09-20-2020, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wizee
Engine sound is piped into the cabin, literally, as in there’s a pipe bringing engine compartment noises into the cabin. It’s called the Sound Symposer, and it’s different from the Soundaktor on the four cylinder models (which is essentially a speaker playing engine noises).

There is a flap on this pipe that controls how much sound comes in, and I believe its control is related to the sport exhaust setting, though like the muffler flaps, it’s not a simple always on/off logic.
Sorry but where have you confirmed this? I thought there was no Symposer on the GT4 or Spyder.
Old 09-20-2020, 10:11 PM
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^Archimedes: this link was given to me by ExMB. Go to about 4:00, where the sound symposer is discussed.


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Old 09-20-2020, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Sorry but where have you confirmed this? I thought there was no Symposer on the GT4 or Spyder.
Per the PCA video at 4:10 atleast the spyder has it.

Edit.

She beat me to it by seconds.

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