Cayman T
#16
Depends on the track. At a local Porsche meet it was #1 on autocross. One of the big car reviewers (can't recall the name atm) reported it out performing the rest of the line on their figure 8 track. My take away is that the T is supreme in cornering and tracks with short to medium straights and shows it's power weakness on the longer straights. I also haven't heard of any overheating issues with the 2.0L. Myself coming from a motorcycle tracking background I can add the following. The important part of getting the big speeds on a straight is your corner speed on the preceding corner and how fast you come out of it onto the straight - it takes takes a lot of distance on the straight to make up for any deficiency in that regard. So with a lighter maneuverable car, or a car that spools up quickly, you can make up time there and on late breaking into the corner. A big thing I noticed with guys on litre bikes that were not very experienced is that they would hit these high speeds on the straights but brake too early coming into the corner, really easy to pass them. I always had fun on 650 I4's or a Ducati V2 with a 955cc displacement on tracks for this reason. Top speed on a straight isn't as much fun, anyone can do it, but perfecting your corner entry and exits is where the challenge and fun is.
Last edited by Kats; 04-10-2022 at 08:39 PM.
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#17
The Cayman T is a sweet driving car. Probably not the ideal track car due to limited front negative camber. Still a lot of fun. No Cayman stock is an ideal track car…..although there is the GT4 club sport racer……………..
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#18
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I’m gonna stick with the Cayman T because I like the idea of the T model. I am changing to GT Silver because the Frozen Berry is a little too Barbie for me. I wish it was Cassis Red. My plan for this car is to use it as a spare track day car for friends who want to join in and in the winter I’ll slap some snow tires on it and have some fun.
#19
Yup. Have one. It’s awful.
You can feel exactly what each wheel is doing and every variation of pavement. The ability to place any wheel within a 1/2” of exactly where you want it gets so old.
The 18-way seats offer no opportunity to burn calories looking for a more comfortable position.
The sport-tex interior grips you like a Venus Flytrap.
It’s a dangerous street legal go-kart car that places your license in jeopardy because it compels you to take corners, entrance and exit ramps as fast as possible.
And mine looks like albino poop with a stripe.
You can feel exactly what each wheel is doing and every variation of pavement. The ability to place any wheel within a 1/2” of exactly where you want it gets so old.
The 18-way seats offer no opportunity to burn calories looking for a more comfortable position.
The sport-tex interior grips you like a Venus Flytrap.
It’s a dangerous street legal go-kart car that places your license in jeopardy because it compels you to take corners, entrance and exit ramps as fast as possible.
And mine looks like albino poop with a stripe.
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NCThirteen (04-18-2022)
#20
I’m gonna stick with the Cayman T because I like the idea of the T model. I am changing to GT Silver because the Frozen Berry is a little too Barbie for me. I wish it was Cassis Red. My plan for this car is to use it as a spare track day car for friends who want to join in and in the winter I’ll slap some snow tires on it and have some fun.
#21
Racer
Yes, in agreement to it being pink. And to balance out the pink, I toyed with the idea of it on a Spyder to reduce the total amount of pink--and accent heavily with black...but I wasn't able to pull the trigger when it came time to order.
#23
Well you can get the larger engine in the GTS which shares all the other performance bits with the T. Traditionally in the 911 days the T was the stripped down and lightest version of the car with the smallest engine but with the performance bits added in. So Porsche is trading on that history.
#24
Ok interesting. I just picked up a new Cayman S and would like to maybe get one more allocation before they go electric. I struggle with what the final “best” car would be. The GTS and GT4 have more power, but the S can easily surpass those numbers with an inexpensive tune.
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#25
I would go GT4/GTS because I don't think the power differences mean all that much, especially with Porsche. How the power is delivered OTOH, will have different fans for each. So you already have a turbo, grab a NA. IMO of course. EDIT: I am assuming you're keeping both for some reason, if not - tough call. For me it was between the T and the 4.0. The allotment Gods sent me a T.
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GT3FZS (01-15-2023)
#26
I wouldn't keep both. Just want to have the last, best manual transmission car before they go electric.
I do understand the sound issue, having just come from a 458 (that would just scream) and not liking the sound of the 488. I struggle with taking a step down from 562 hp to only 350-400, but have only put all of 20 break-in miles on the car so far.
I do understand the sound issue, having just come from a 458 (that would just scream) and not liking the sound of the 488. I struggle with taking a step down from 562 hp to only 350-400, but have only put all of 20 break-in miles on the car so far.
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#27
Racer
I wouldn't keep both. Just want to have the last, best manual transmission car before they go electric.
I do understand the sound issue, having just come from a 458 (that would just scream) and not liking the sound of the 488. I struggle with taking a step down from 562 hp to only 350-400, but have only put all of 20 break-in miles on the car so far.
I do understand the sound issue, having just come from a 458 (that would just scream) and not liking the sound of the 488. I struggle with taking a step down from 562 hp to only 350-400, but have only put all of 20 break-in miles on the car so far.
Like you, I just picked up a 2022 Cayman S and also was attracted by the Cayman T (and still am) but also intrigued by how a bit more power is accessible via a mild tune on the S.
Right now, my brain is settled with the thought that I need to really explore, enjoy, and then evaluate the S--as that process will help me pursue a late, configurable 2023 allocation of the 718 on the (engine) platform that will be most suitable for my long-term enjoyment.
Last edited by Bearrun21; 04-21-2022 at 11:44 AM.
#29
Racer
Indeed. And one of the fun rabbit holes is to think that I can get so 'dialed in' on the mechanics and overall options...that I decide to spend PTS money on the T or S model.
Damn fortunate to be sorting through these extreme First World issues.
Damn fortunate to be sorting through these extreme First World issues.
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GT3FZS (01-15-2023)
#30
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I have a T right now, but am a few weeks away from taking delivery of my GT4. Personally, I think the T is a super fun car. With the Spyder/GT4/GTS prices going insane (approaching double that of a T), I feel it's a good overall value (assuming you don't pay much of an ADM). I think the S is where things get to be a bit more questionable, due to overall price. In fact, in terms of handling, I would argue the T is a notch above the GTS, due to the slightly lower overall weight (since you get everything the GTS offers as standard). Plus, I really love the Sport-Tex seats. IMO, the whole engine/sound trashing is blown way out of proportion. It's certainly not the same feel/character as an NA flat six, but it's not a bad engine. It's just a bit slow to build power (due to the boost threshold of the 2.0 engine) when compared to a normally asperated engine. Once you're in boost, let the fun begin. Keep it in Sport Plus, and the engine holds boost between shifts, so the turbo lag is almost non-existent. Just my $.02