997.1 vs. 997.2: Rennlisters Debate the Merits of Each
Each version of Porsche’s most commercially successful 911 of all time has its own viable selling points.
Among Porsche enthusiasts, one debate easily ranks near the top of heated topics: 997.1 vs. 997.2. When Porsche decided to implement a series of updates to its 997 model 911 in 2009, they probably had no idea those changes would spark a debate that would rage on for years. And the funny thing is, that debate has yet to be amicably settled. In fact, it seems almost like there’s a 50/50 split between those who prefer either iteration of the 997.
This, despite the fact that the 997.2 is lighter, faster, and more fuel efficient than the 997.1. The revised car introduced direct injection, a revised suspension, larger front air intakes, revised headlights and taillights, redesigned sport exhaust and PCM system, and the biggie – a 7-speed, PDK dual-clutch transmission. But of course, better numbers doesn’t always equal a more satisfying driving experience. And there’s something to be said for nostalgia.
Now that’s it’s been a few years, alexb76 was wondering which version of the 997 real Porsche enthusiasts prefer. So he presented the question in this thread. And unsurprisingly, it’s since blown up with responses from those on both sides of the fence.
Almost immediately, TT-911 chimes in with some merits for both the 997.1 and 997.2.
“If you prefer a manual I would go for the Mezger 997/1. The appeal is massive, not only from a technical standpoint but also from a historical view. It’s something that will only grow over time. It’s an epic engine and this makes the ‘last mezger’ turbo desirable.
That being said, the DFI is a great engine too. it’s ‘generic’, not as special but it works. And keeps on working. Very few catastrophic failures. A great car to own. DFI manual is extremely rare making it too a strong candidate for desirability. If you prefer a 2 pedal car I would go for PDK, so 997/2.
Regarding suspension, with a DSC box which is plug an play, the 997/1 becomes equally good as the /2
You could argue the stock springs are different between /1 and /2 and that is true but most people lower the car anyway. And be it H&R, Eibach or Techart, etc. They all have the same set for /1 and /2. No difference.I know the 2008 model, when launched, drove different, better, than the previous year. For 2009 again software changes were made. I was told these updates were up-loaded when a car went in for service bringing older cars to the same standards and parameters.
There is simply no wrong choice. We always refer to /1 and /2 but in the end they both are a 997. The prettiest 911 ever”
HellaHashTags points out the value equation, which is heavily tilted toward the 997.1.
“I think both the 997.1 and 997.2 both have their merits.
The .1 owners can enjoy the iconic Mezger engine and you’re also getting tremendous value for the money (.1’s trade for $10K-$30K less than comparable .2’s.).
The .2 owners can enjoy having the last manual Turbo ever made (if you have the patience to wait for one of the 488 units to come on the market) and also have a powertrain which has been reliable and just as responsive to simple mods.”
Southpaw follows up with some similarly detailed advice, even though he takes slight offense to the 997.2’s DFI engine being called “generic.”
“If you’re buying a name and must have the manual, go with the .1. Also many many more produced so you can get them for much cheaper. The sheer numbers produced and the time it’s been around also makes them thoroughly researched and developed. Mezger owners will always have strength in numbers so when these posts occur, you’ll hear a lot about how they’re better (something I noticed in my own research). Personally, I wouldn’t buy something just for a name but many people love throwing the name around. To each their own.
Whoever said the DFI is “generic”, what else is that exact motor in which makes it so “generic”? Sure there are other versions of it but this specific engine is only in the 997.2 turbo. Just like there are other versions of the Mezger (such as in the 996 turbo).
The 9A1 engine has proven to be very reliable, no coolant pipe issues or spun camshaft issues etc.. They’re much faster with much less mods but that’s also attributed to the PDK. They can be made insanely fast with just basic mods where a 997.1 will need aftermarket turbos just to keep up with a mild bolt-on 997.2.
If you’re after a name, don’t care about going fast, need a manual, and want to save money, the 997.1 is a no-brainer. It’s a FANTASTIC car.
If you want something a bit more updated, faster, more reliable, and don’t mind spending more for this, go for the 997.2.
As for exhaust note, the 997.2 is louder in stock form but when modded with aftermarket exhaust, my 997.1 was louder and had a better tone. I had a GMG exhaust on my .1 and it sounds better than my .2 with Sharkwerks exhaust.
Choose what’s best for YOU, both are fantastic choices and have their own advantages. We’re all lucky to have 2 choices in the 997 trim”
The bottom line? Both cars are fantastic. Both have their own individual merits, and both are worth owning. Therefore, choosing a winner in the 997.1 vs. 997.2 battle seems a little redundant (and essentially impossible).
Still, we find ourselves fascinated by the debate. And we want to know what you think! So head on over here and chime in with your thoughts. And if you’re not already a Rennlist member, this post has everything you need to know about signing up!
