Just got my first 911 -- a total snore
08-18-2014, 02:30 PM
#168
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The Rossion is not a car that you assemble. It comes fully built and ready to run. It is not like a Factory Five for example. It is a hand built tube frame chassis with a mid engine twin turbo ford 3.0 liter. Mine makes 530 HP and 500 ft lbs, Torque. Car has a curb weight of 2650 lbs. It has creature comforts like A/C, navigation, electric windows and is a very comfortable car to drive considering it is an exotic. It cheap to service and cheap to insure. For 100K given it can keep up with cars costing 250K+ I think it is a bargain. I have never had so many complements and thumbs up on any other car I have ever owned. It's not for everyone but it sure is for me! I still like Porsches but I think, with the exception of the GT3, the 911's have evolved into more of a GT cruiser than sports car and are a bit common. IMHO.
10-05-2014, 02:15 PM
#169
To everyone, this is my opinion ONLY. The Nurburgring while a great track is that a track and subject to driver skill. Heck I've seen double decker buses on it. I have quite a few laps on Nurburgring and a few track days on the Bugatti Circuit at Le Mans.
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
10-05-2014, 02:37 PM
#170
Actually, she looks good and I'd let her drive any of my 911s.
10-05-2014, 02:55 PM
#171
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To everyone, this is my opinion ONLY. The Nurburgring while a great track is that a track and subject to driver skill. Heck I've seen double decker buses on it. I have quite a few laps on Nurburgring and a few track days on the Bugatti Circuit at Le Mans.
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
10-05-2014, 02:57 PM
#172
To everyone, this is my opinion ONLY. The Nurburgring while a great track is that a track and subject to driver skill. Heck I've seen double decker buses on it. I have quite a few laps on Nurburgring and a few track days on the Bugatti Circuit at Le Mans.
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
10-05-2014, 09:10 PM
#173
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To everyone, this is my opinion ONLY. The Nurburgring while a great track is that a track and subject to driver skill. Heck I've seen double decker buses on it. I have quite a few laps on Nurburgring and a few track days on the Bugatti Circuit at Le Mans.
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
I currently own a 991 3.4l, PDK and a BMW E92 M3 DCT, both are fantastic cars, BUT, I'm currently selling the M3 as I find the 991 exceptional.
While I find the OP statements interesting, such as the autobahn hides a cars faults, I've found that to be the opposite, at unlimited speeds (except for my lack of cajones at 170+mph), the autobahn rings out the car and driver capabilities.
If you drive the autobahn at 130KPH (80ish MPH), then even a yugo would seem capable.
Mike
10-05-2014, 09:11 PM
#174
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10-05-2014, 09:12 PM
#175
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Is anyone collecting these? That way at the end of the year we could have a run-off vote on who started the most idiotic troll thread.
In the category of most clueless driver, the nominees are….
And in the category of dropping the most super car references while feigning blasé ennui bordering on disdain for everything real enthusiasts admire the winner is…
We'll be right back after the break with Special Guest Jeremy Clarkson introducing the nominees for most inept automotive sexual metaphors!
In the category of most clueless driver, the nominees are….
And in the category of dropping the most super car references while feigning blasé ennui bordering on disdain for everything real enthusiasts admire the winner is…
We'll be right back after the break with Special Guest Jeremy Clarkson introducing the nominees for most inept automotive sexual metaphors!
10-08-2014, 04:30 AM
#176
Wow, just came upon this flaming pile of posts. Looks like the charred remains of the King Fire in NorCal.
I just have two things to add:
Rally racing a Subaru WRX is much more 'involving' than tracking a road car. This is one stout, wicked, precise machine when properly prepped and shod with the right rally suspension. You have to file a flight plan for some of the stuff we do.
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slowly.
That is where the OP was going when this flabalanche of pithy trashtalk about everyone's mom and being around when somebody was a pepperoni on someone else's dad's pizza all started ....
I just have two things to add:
Rally racing a Subaru WRX is much more 'involving' than tracking a road car. This is one stout, wicked, precise machine when properly prepped and shod with the right rally suspension. You have to file a flight plan for some of the stuff we do.
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slowly.
That is where the OP was going when this flabalanche of pithy trashtalk about everyone's mom and being around when somebody was a pepperoni on someone else's dad's pizza all started ....
10-08-2014, 04:51 AM
#177
Three Wheelin'
+1
Newer generation cars are made to be docile below 4000 rpm so that they are easy to live with and very driveable for everyone. My 964 is certainly more fun & lively to drive at the lower end of the RPM range but once that 4-5000 threshold is reached then you know who the daddy is.
Newer generation cars are made to be docile below 4000 rpm so that they are easy to live with and very driveable for everyone. My 964 is certainly more fun & lively to drive at the lower end of the RPM range but once that 4-5000 threshold is reached then you know who the daddy is.
10-09-2014, 02:29 PM
#178
@Larry, the M3 while heavy is a capable car. I've driven quite a few laps before I've experienced brake fade and pulled off. Is the car bloated?--YES but while different from the 991 is still fun.
That said I LOVE the 991 BUT the M3 can fit 4 adults, luggage and my golf bag, so different car that are both fun
That said I LOVE the 991 BUT the M3 can fit 4 adults, luggage and my golf bag, so different car that are both fun
10-09-2014, 02:36 PM
#179
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@Larry, the M3 while heavy is a capable car. I've driven quite a few laps before I've experienced brake fade and pulled off. Is the car bloated?--YES but while different from the 991 is still fun.
That said I LOVE the 991 BUT the M3 can fit 4 adults, luggage and my golf bag, so different car that are both fun
That said I LOVE the 991 BUT the M3 can fit 4 adults, luggage and my golf bag, so different car that are both fun
Last M3 that I had any regard for was the E46 ... its been steadily downhill since then...
10-09-2014, 02:38 PM
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i will be the first to confess porsche is not perfect, but it certainly exceeds my expectations and beyond. the quirks they have make them what they are and create such a cult following. performance, exclusivity and price made them extremely reasonable and likely top of the list.
ferrari, lambo and mclaren, sure, they're something to reckon with, but at significantly more than (most) porsches less the 918. now, that's something to kill any boredom - the 918. even the opening comment writer...
posting distaste for porsches on a porsche dedicated site it either bold or completely foolish. i choose the later...
long live the carrera!
ferrari, lambo and mclaren, sure, they're something to reckon with, but at significantly more than (most) porsches less the 918. now, that's something to kill any boredom - the 918. even the opening comment writer...
posting distaste for porsches on a porsche dedicated site it either bold or completely foolish. i choose the later...
long live the carrera!