ace37

Interesting point. The present strength of the USD would make it easier to swallow as well although that can change rather quickly.

I've got my new 911 already so I'm good

Manifold

I doubt that Porsche will sell cars in the US at a loss in order to make volume numbers. We're not talking about a small tariff which can easily be absorbed and diluted - it's 35%. If a tariff goes through, maybe the number will be a lot lower, but the idea still irks me.

KA 991 GT3

If tariffs are invoked, wouldn't they do the same to ALL exotic cars? Ferrari, McLaren and all other brands? There has to be some logic here and the added benefit would be on highly consumed products. I can see Trump wanting to do this for Toyota because it has direct competition with local brands but i don't think this "rule" would apply to brands like Porsche.
Someone hit it on the nail earlier when approaching from an economical science view point...
Supply and demand:

1- Amount of unit sold, but also units competing with total aggregate local units to make enough competition with a local brand.
2- Market adjustments and trade with Germany, imposing tariffs would negatively impact our exported products to them.

So I personally do not see this going across this line of cars. My $0.02...

robmypro

I would think a tariff would also support resale prices, as those cars are already here. I still hope it doesn't happen.

KA 991 GT3

I am with you on this, everyone would like to protect their toy and hope for it to be a good investment, will it be? remains to be seen.

sccchiii

They won't need to sell at a loss, they would simply take a smaller margin in short term but will make a number of changes to prevent as much pricing impact as possible, like further reducing manufacturing costs, cutting potential department budgets further from already reduced amounts from VW diesel-gate, etc etc etc. This problem can be worked around in about 1000 different ways by very very bright bean counters. Of course out of gate it will hurt the VW groups bottomline which cannot afford the hit so they will find some solutions and it wont be limited to just one adjustment. You will not see a tariff changing MSRPs dollar for dollar regardless of what percentage it is.........

sccchiii

Funny the Japanese are probably in one of best positions as Honda and Toyota assemble a lot of volume models for USA sales in USA. Toyota assembles in Indiana, Kentucky, Texas, Mississippi.

KA 991 GT3

He targeted them for wanting to open up a plant in Mexico and bring in cars across borders. It was more of a message to Ford and FCA.

TJ993

[QUOTE=KA 991 GT3;13900379]If tariffs are invoked.....
Someone hit it on the nail earlier when approaching from an economical science view point...
Supply and demand:

1- Amount of unit sold, but also units competing with total aggregate local units to make enough competition with a local brand.
2- Market adjustments and trade with Germany, imposing tariffs would negatively impact our exported products to them.

Competition is Good, right? One result is Progress or a progressively better car

The current era dealers say we have reduced our margins

The statement The Bean Counters Factor:
Find their profits in other areas Factor.

OK lets say New Prices r down
Where does the New Car Profit Come From?
Selling insurance and warranties?
Upgrades n Options?

As New cars come out, the correct Tools are not accessible for 5 Years = Service Profit, right?

Parts?
Parts are being made all over the world?
Are parts suppliers Subsiduaries of the Manufacturers?

Can anyone jump in here and state how the currrent game is being played?
Is the profit Parts Or Service or Elsewhere?

KA 991 GT3

[QUOTE=TJ993;13900532]Is we want to learn from the past and take a snap shot of the current situation with the GT3's there was not much profit made for Porsche on parts or service.
Even for the future, it is too much of a low volume to make much profit on such low production car given that no major issues were to come up with the new car.
I hope i am understanding your rhetoric.

SZFL6

A dealer in Southern CA offered 140K trade-in price for my 2015 GT3 (original MSRP of 156K) with 3700 miles.
Trade-in for a new 991 GT3 RS.

RajDatta

If you get to use the tax credits, it's very close to your msrp.

SZFL6

Good point. The other factor is the markup on the RS. I'm looking at an Ultraviolet RS.

bronson7

The bigger question is, what are they asking for the RS?

996C2Cabriolet

Exactly!!
What is the markup on the RS??