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Old 10-14-2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Strosek Ultra
Easy to fabricate in my shop.
Åke
Great idea!

That's what makes the 928 parts fabrication so much fun and so worthwhile. Come up with a unique idea and someone will copy it, instantly!

Would a dimensioned drawing make that easier, for you?
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Great idea!

That's what makes the 928 parts fabrication so much fun and so worthwhile. Come up with a unique idea and someone will copy it, instantly!

Would a dimensioned drawing make that easier, for you?


To be fair, the taxes to import your adaptors into his country could be a few thousand dollars.

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Originally Posted by riq79
I'm planning to megasquirt my -85 euro engine. Does this mean I could use these injectors with my project? http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Year-Warra...daf543&vxp=mtr
The "direct replacement" injector these are made from have the large body with the big groove for the VW style O-ring to retain them into the manifold.

You could run a Bosch type 3 style, but you would need to fabricate some tabs on the fuel rail to hold the assembly into the manifold (like a S4 engine.)
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr


To be fair, the taxes to import your adaptors into his country could be a few thousand dollars.

Wow. That's crazy!

I tried to make them cheap enough that it wouldn't be worth someone's time to copy them, but 1000's of dollars to import something is a whole different story.

With that kind of taxation, your government must have many very rich....public servants...AKA "crooks".
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Heck, I don't even have one of those cars and I should order a set. I think the hose issue is a non-issue. Modern (quality) fuel hose is extremely robust for obvious reasons.

Well done - again.
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Heck, I don't even have one of those cars and I should order a set.
Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Great idea!

That's what makes the 928 parts fabrication so much fun and so worthwhile. Come up with a unique idea and someone will copy it, instantly!

Would a dimensioned drawing make that easier, for you?
Remember.... no good deed goes unpunished !!
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Already ordered a set but at that price I will have two sets.
Sorting out the correct injectors. I will be fitting Design II 24Lb on my 86.

Greg these will fit 84 to 86 16v M28:21 & 22 not just 85 & 86

Fixed.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Heck, I don't even have one of those cars and I should order a set. I think the hose issue is a non-issue. Modern (quality) fuel hose is extremely robust for obvious reasons.

Well done - again.
Thank you.

You might be correct about the hose....I just hate taking chances, with fuel. If I never see another burned car, I'd be very happy, but that is not likely to be the case.....

I think the internal size of the hose is what is so important....plus the construction of the inner liner.

Many people run down to NAPA/local parts store and buy fuel injection hose that is made in American sizes (5/16"), not to the specs of the proper hose (7mm.)

Some of the generic hose has a relatively "soft" inner liner to cope with the alcohol in today's fuel. Clamp down on that stuff sitting on barbs and you've got a potential disaster waiting to happen.

I'm a large stocking Goodridge hose dealer (high performance aftermarket hose) and I sell their "push lock" rubber hose. That hose is very special for the intended application.

I assume the same is true of this German application....plus that, the "correct hose" is cheap....why take the chance, unless it an emergency to get a car running?
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Originally Posted by Hold On
Remember.... no good deed goes unpunished !!
The 928 "world" is very interesting....way different that any other Porsche I've ever worked on.

Many of the cars are worth very little money (right now) and belong to people that want to have a Porsche, on a used Kia budget.

That's wonderful, except the reason the 928 was one of the most expensive cars to build (at the time) was that it was very special, with very special pieces...not because of the German air in the tires.

There's a few of us, with our top priority, to try to provide parts and service to keep these cars running. There's also a group of people out there that are crooks, trying to rip off anyone and everyone they can....I won't mention any names....most everyone, on this Forum, should know who those people are, by now!

I have no doubt that some of these people, who haven't had an original thought in the past 10 years, will copy these pieces....just like they have copied other pieces that I have.

Just try to remember that it is expensive to invent, develop, test, and produce pieces....and quite easy to just copy something.

Support the "real" people that are trying to keep these cars on the road. Buy your used parts from 928 International...because if you do not, they will disappear.....and suddenly "used' pieces will get very rare and very expensive.

Support the people that rack their brains to solve problems and make replacement pieces.

These are the people that are going to keep these cars running, for many years. If you support the "crooks"....the people that make pieces that are copies, don't work, or perform badly, the results are easy to foresee....these cars will end up just being junkers, without parts to fix them.

It's really easy to be "penny wise and pound foolish"....try to think a bit, before you buy that next used part from some home dismantler....to save $2.00. Think before you buy a copy of something.

Support the people that bust their ***** for "our" cars.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Wow. That's crazy!

I tried to make them cheap enough that it wouldn't be worth someone's time to copy them, but 1000's of dollars to import something is a whole different story.

With that kind of taxation, your government must have many very rich....public servants...AKA "crooks".
It is not optimal having all you guys developing new parts for our cars on the other side of the pond.

Here is the equation for final price in Sweden:
part price
+shipping
+3% import duty
+25% tax on all of the costs above
+14$ import declaration fee
=EXPENSIVE!

Åke owns his own machine shop, so it would be very easy for him to make them. But I don't think he will copy them for his own or any other use, since his car will have carburetors and the market for these parts are not that big over here.
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See my post from 2 1/2 yrs ago: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...injectors.html

Scroll down to reply #12:
"Yes I am thinking of a simple adapter about 1" long with barbs on one end and cup with cutout for hold clip like new style injectors use."

Glad someone finally decided to do this.
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It is not optimal having all you guys developing new parts for our cars on the other side of the pond.

Here is the equation for final price in Sweden:
part price
+shipping
+3% import duty
+25% tax on all of the costs above
+14$ import declaration fee
=EXPENSIVE!

It's still cheaper to buy most parts from USA than Europe. And shipping takes about same time, to Finland at least.
Old 10-14-2014, 02:57 PM
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The community around these cars...meaning folks like yourself who are constantly innovating and coming up with new ways of keeping these machines running, as well as the many sources of knowledge on the forum here, and the places like 928 Intl and 928srus...is a huge part of why I ended up taking the plunge. There's just no way someone like me would have a prayer of success without it.

Regarding the specific issues with exporting this type of thing, perhaps you (Greg, and others in a similar circumstance) could partner up with a local manufacturer to have your officially authorized designs manufactured locally? Not sure if there is enough of a demand but it might work.

Originally Posted by GregBBRD
The 928 "world" is very interesting....way different that any other Porsche I've ever worked on.

Many of the cars are worth very little money (right now) and belong to people that want to have a Porsche, on a used Kia budget.

That's wonderful, except the reason the 928 was one of the most expensive cars to build (at the time) was that it was very special, with very special pieces...not because of the German air in the tires.

There's a few of us, with our top priority, to try to provide parts and service to keep these cars running. There's also a group of people out there that are crooks, trying to rip off anyone and everyone they can....I won't mention any names....most everyone, on this Forum, should know who those people are, by now!

I have no doubt that some of these people, who haven't had an original thought in the past 10 years, will copy these pieces....just like they have copied other pieces that I have.

Just try to remember that it is expensive to invent, develop, test, and produce pieces....and quite easy to just copy something.

Support the "real" people that are trying to keep these cars on the road. Buy your used parts from 928 International...because if you do not, they will disappear.....and suddenly "used' pieces will get very rare and very expensive.

Support the people that rack their brains to solve problems and make replacement pieces.

These are the people that are going to keep these cars running, for many years. If you support the "crooks"....the people that make pieces that are copies, don't work, or perform badly, the results are easy to foresee....these cars will end up just being junkers, without parts to fix them.

It's really easy to be "penny wise and pound foolish"....try to think a bit, before you buy that next used part from some home dismantler....to save $2.00. Think before you buy a copy of something.

Support the people that bust their ***** for "our" cars.
Old 10-14-2014, 03:00 PM
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You should market these to the Mercedes crowd too.
There are numerous mercedes, and jags too that use the same style of injectors.

Alternatively, those on a cheaper budget can turn down the top of the injector and then put the hose directly overtop of the injector. It's the perfect size with two metal ribs to hold the hose on.


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