car positioning in trailer
#16
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ATC is off on what they advertise. Maybe an uninsulated stripped down model is 3000, I mean really stripped down. I think mine was 5100 on the scales unloaded.
#18
I'm new to trailering as well and had the same idea but in my experience this doesn't work. My trailer is an open trailer and I added about 300 pounds of weight to the toolbox in the front to try and counterbalance my 911 being to far back when originally loaded. That only ended up increasing the toungue weight by about 75 pounds. I had to change up my tie straps to get the car further forward and the rear axle equal with the trailer axles to get the proper toungue weight.
#19
Instructor
Back to the OP's question. Never believe the "brochure" weight of the trailer. The actual weight will be on its data plate when you get it. But to answer your loading question, the best thing to do is simply spend some time at your local truck scales. They are set up so you can measure axle loads, tongue weights, total load of trailer, weights bearing on the tow vehicle, etc.
The scales have 3 independent pads, and you can change the location of your car inside the trailer, the rig across the scales, un hitch it and get the actual tongue weight, etc. once you have all that, you can determime you best loading practice, and where to place your tire rack.
#20
If you winch it on you can pull it in backwards so the engine is in the front. Then you can position it more to the rear of the trailer and not waste that space.
#21
#23
Not necessarily. It can trailer fine until way too light on the tongue. You wouldn't know unless you make an emergency swerve to avoid something.
#24
But enclosed car haulers typically have the axles way towards the rear so unless you're pulling empty trailer with just 911 way to the back will never be a problem. If you pay attention when pulling in you can feel when weight shifts onto tongue. Initially tries to pull coupler off hitch then as you inch forward you can feel and see it roll over and push down on front. If always pull in to this point will be fine.
#26
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Originally Posted by mikemessi
Not necessarily. It can trailer fine until way too light on the tongue. You wouldn't know unless you make an emergency swerve to avoid something.
#27
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Bingo!!!
This is the only way to do it correctly. There is no reason to start guessing around because finding out in a high wind or emergency brake situation that you've got it wrong can be expensive. Your max tongue weight will be limited by your hitch and the specs on your truck. 10- 15% of total trailer weight is a good number. There is no good reason to go higher.
http://sherline.com/product/sherline...-weight-scale/
This is the only way to do it correctly. There is no reason to start guessing around because finding out in a high wind or emergency brake situation that you've got it wrong can be expensive. Your max tongue weight will be limited by your hitch and the specs on your truck. 10- 15% of total trailer weight is a good number. There is no good reason to go higher.
http://sherline.com/product/sherline...-weight-scale/
It was said in jest, but if you're using a tongue weight scale, move the car 2-3 times, figure out the sweet spot, you're done. No need to check every time, With a rear engine car, most of the weight is going to be close to or over the trailer axles, moving it a few inches is not going to make a huge difference. Just make sure the car is not too far back.
#28
Bingo!!!
This is the only way to do it correctly. There is no reason to start guessing around because finding out in a high wind or emergency brake situation that you've got it wrong can be expensive. Your max tongue weight will be limited by your hitch and the specs on your truck. 10- 15% of total trailer weight is a good number. There is no good reason to go higher.
http://sherline.com/product/sherline...-weight-scale/
This is the only way to do it correctly. There is no reason to start guessing around because finding out in a high wind or emergency brake situation that you've got it wrong can be expensive. Your max tongue weight will be limited by your hitch and the specs on your truck. 10- 15% of total trailer weight is a good number. There is no good reason to go higher.
http://sherline.com/product/sherline...-weight-scale/
#29