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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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Needs the headrest crest option to remove the Turbo designation.
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 01:03 PM
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Shame so much time and resources were expended on that Apple VIR thing versus hardening the infotainment software.
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thuggo
Waiting for that counter argument bud where people are fine with pissing away 100k in 2 years...or less on an EV. Must be that new math.
The depreciation for the Taycan (in any trim, or EV, or whatever) is really no different than any luxury sedan and/or SUV. Or roughly between 45-60% of MSRP.

It's just the price you pay for, ahem, luxury.

Comparisons to the 911 are inapt. Especially 911 prices during and post Covid.


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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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Some more info 3/11/2024- Below is early preliminary product information about the new Taycan Turbo GT and Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach Package. When details become clearer and when additional assets become available, they will be added to this page. Please ask any questions below in the comments section and we will try and get them answered as quickly as possible.

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Taycan Turbo S Taycan Turbo GT Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach PackagePower with Launch Control, up to
700 kW/938 hp 760 kW/1,019 hp 760 kW/1,019 hp Torque with Launch Control, up to 818 lb-ft 988 lb-ft 988 lb-ft 0-60 mph 2.3 s 2.2 s 2.1 s 1/4 mile 9.9 s 9.5 s 9.4 s Vmax 161 mph 180 mph 190 mph Curb Weight 5,082 lbs 5,090 lbs 4,925 lbs MSRP $209,000 $230,000 $230,000

Taycan Turbo GT

Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach Package

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  • Porsche E-Performance drive with up to 760 kW/1,019 HP overboost output
  • Silicon carbide pulse inverter with 900 A (+ 300 A compared to the Taycan Turbo S)
  • Sport Chrono package incl. Attack Mode and Race Track Mode
  • Lightweight construction Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB) in Victory Gold
  • Porsche Active Ride
Contents of Turbo GT and/or....
  • Sport Chrono package incl. Attack Mode and Race Track Mode without stopwatch on dashboard
And additional weight-reduction measures
  • Manual charging cover on passenger side only
  • Sound Package Plus without rear speakers (BOSE Surround Sound-System available as a no-cost option)
  • Door sill guards in Black (available in matte carbon fiber, illuminated as a no-cost option)
  • Omission of Floor/luggage compartment mats (available as a no-cost option)
  • Reduction of insulating material
  • Omission of Porsche Mobile Charger(no-cost option)

Exterior


  • Adaptive rear spoiler with carbon fiber gurney flap
  • 21-inch Turbo GT forged lightweight wheels and performance summer tires
  • B-pillars in carbon fiber
  • Aeroblades at front and rear
  • Manual/non-powered tailgate for weight savings
Contents of Turbo GT and/or....
  • Fixed rear wing in carbon fiber with mounts in satin black and fixed rear spoiler in exterior color
  • Weissach package logo on left and right rear wing of spoiler
  • ”Taycan” design foiling with striped design incl. decorative ”Taycan” lettering in the color variants Volt Blue, black or matte black (optional)
  • Lightweight and noise insulated glass
  • Underbody air flow elements

Interior


  • 18-way Adaptive Sport Seats Plus with memory package*
  • GT sport steering wheel incl. two mode switches (PASM and Drive Modes) and paddles (Recuperation adjustment and Attack Mode activation)
  • Race-Tex equipment with extensive black leather features
  • Exclusive interior equipment with contrasting features in Volt Blue or GT Silver (optional)
*North America will not get the Lightweight full bucket seats that are standard for the rest of the world, 18-way seats are the only available offer for our market.

Contents of Turbo GT and/or....
  • Lightweight carbon fiber trim in place of rear seats incl. storage compartment
  • GT interior package with Black Race-Tex and leather features
  • Plaque with Weissach package logo on the passenger side
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by thuggo
Porsche has lost their way for sure. $220k car, that will drop half its value in a 1-2 years based on the current trends.

4RS still beats it around the ring by 2 or 3 seconds.
Porsche had 3 options:

1) Ignore EVs and focus on ICE. The result? Porsche becomes a dinosaur, stuck in the old school ways.

2) Produce EVs, but only to make money and sell SUVs or just boring cars while the ICE cars are the main course. The result? Porsche is boring, and people stop thinking about the brand as being a step above the rest.

3) Produce EVs and do it well. The result? Porsche maintains old school awesome ICE cars and adds awesome new high performance EVs, retaining the “Porsche is a high tech engineering company” identity while providing an answer to Tesla at the same time (desperately needed)

Sure, the Tesla is less than 1/2 the cost, but so is Corvette. There’s room for both.

Congrats, Porsche, I’m excited, even if I stick with ICE.
Old Mar 12, 2024 | 09:59 PM
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I think it’s cool to see Porsche push the limits of an EV. Since the government is pushing so hard for EV’s, why not try to make them fun and exciting?

Regarding the Weissach package, they should have put carbon buckets in the rear rather than removing them all together.
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 10:09 PM
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Makes my Tesla Model S Plaid seem like the bargain of the century.
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 12:01 AM
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So buy a 911... don't buy a Taycan. Not sure why harping on depreciation 24/7 changes anything other than creating a chorus of whiners. Did the Taycan depreciate from 2020-2023 when you couldn't find one? No? Than maybe the markets are super weird right now, especially around a novel product and a state of technological flux.

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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 12:15 AM
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this is a "**** you, Elon, we own the Nurburgring" vehicle. Porsche is the same company that had "air conditioner delete" as an actual option on the 3RS. It's not for you. Don't buy it. They don't care.

I'll note it has some very cool tech in it that I'm excited to see move down the line, and hopefully into a cayman chassis in a few years. The model S plaid requires 3 motors to get near this performance.
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
this is a "**** you, Elon, we own the Nurburgring" vehicle. Porsche is the same company that had "air conditioner delete" as an actual option on the 3RS. It's not for you. Don't buy it. They don't care.

I'll note it has some very cool tech in it that I'm excited to see move down the line, and hopefully into a cayman chassis in a few years. The model S plaid requires 3 motors to get near this performance.
Yet it's still ~300 pounds heavier than the Plaid despite having 1 less motor and no rear seats
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
Yet it's still ~300 pounds heavier than the Plaid despite having 1 less motor and no rear seats
But but but ... build quality!
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 07:05 PM
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not buying another Tesla (had my share from 2012 to 2020)- but thought I'd check it out - here is today's price on a Plaid $96k and thank you Tesla the steering wheel is included - only Elon - - and it already comes with the NACS port so you can actually charge it in North America (and at Laguna Seca so you can bang out 1:30.xx lap times all day long - come in and charge at the track, and go back out)…but you'll be 3 seconds slower than the Taycan GT - but you can get a plaid I"m not so sure you can actually get a Taycan GT.


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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 07:21 PM
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One wonders why the ‘Track pack’ is no longer available. Might be useful on track so that you can actually brake after a couple of laps? lol
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
One wonders why the ‘Track pack’ is no longer available. Might be useful on track so that you can actually brake after a couple of laps? lol
braking w/Tesla has always been optional - one pedal driving w/regen FTW if you need to stop any sooner that's what crumple zones and airbags are for.

track package is listed under "accessories" $20k

https://shop.tesla.com/product/model...-track-package

so that brings the whole thing to $130k'ish

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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 08:09 PM
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“Buy a 911 and not lose money” fk off.

Idiots with short memories on car depreciation That ride is coming to an end. Hey @dgoldenz you’ve been around a while. Let’s see, my 2009 911 it was MSRP new around 100k. It was ‘valued’ at under 70 3 years later. My 964? $50k pickup. Or how about that 997RS I still have? That was a 140k car, 2007, 2011, worth about 1/2 that.

Maybe you can tell us about your car money making adventures?

Short memories and think this gravy train will last. Won’t happen. But if it makes you feel better to think your cars are appreciating assets have at it!

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