usctrojanGT3

So my Taycan is coming in Nov/Dec and I need to buy a L2 home charger for the car. Which ones do you guys recommend?

DerekS

I've had excellent luck with the Wallbox. I had to give up on the one Porsche provides as it started to fail after a year or so.

Wallbox has an additional benefit; you can import charges from it into my (forthcoming) EV cost/trip tracking app, Chargey.

Cajun Martyni

No complaints with my Wallbox. Easy to set up and use. It has locked up a few times with Teslas (have to unplug the box and then plug it back in) but no problems at all with Taycan.

XLR82XS

I like the Wallbox. This one seems legit, has good ratings, and 48-amp capable:

https://ev-lectron.com/collections/j...arging-station

daveo4porsche

ClipperCreek
ChargePoint
Porsche Wall Charger (adjustable from 20-80 amps)
Wallbox
JuiceBox

lots of choices - if you can a 60 amp (breaker) will give your stock/standard Taycan a 48 amp charge rate which is a bit faster than the 40 amp max charge rate you with the Porsche (or any mobile) mobile charger.

daveo4porsche

https://rennlist.com/forums/taycan/1...-charging.html

this thread might do the trick…

thebishman

Chargepoint Flex for the win! (At least at my house). lol

CanuckGT4

It appears some home chargers can be hardwired but some cannot?
We are building new now and need a hardwired option.
Wallbox appears to allow hardwiring which is much nicer.

Spyerx

yeah, my chargepoint is hardwired, not all are designed for it

edkwon

Also a fan of the Wallbox Pulsar Plus, compact form factor, good for indoor and outdoor installation, app programmable. I find the Taycans timed programming profiles annoying so it's much easier to set this on the Wallbox and just set an 85% charging profile in the car to prevent battery overcharging at home.



If you want to hardwire install your unit then order the hardwire specific version of the Wallbox.

daveo4porsche

it really doesn't matter

EVSE (EV chargers) 50 amps or less can be plug based or hardwired - north American electrical building code…
North American electrical building code requires any Electrical Device/Appliance > 50 amps must be hardwired

example:

Clipper creek sells 50 amp EVSE (EV chargers) - 50 amp breaker = 40 amp charge rate
you can purchase a ClipperCreek HCS50 EVSE with a NEMA 14-50 plug, 6-50 plug, or hardwired - electrically and functionality it's really just a $3 pig tail difference - same unit, just different connectors to the power source

_IF_ however you want a a ClipperCreek HCS60 - 60 amp breaker = 48 amp charge rate - it _MUST_ be hardwired - there is no building code approved "plug" for a 60 amp electrical device/appliance - this is true for all sizes/manufacturers of EVSE's - so all 60/70/80/90/100 amp chargers (48/56/64/72/80 amp charge rates) _MUST_ be hardwired…

you can purchase plug based _OR_ hardwired EV chargers for any AMP size from 15 amp to 50 amp breakers - it doesn't matter…

this is why mobile chargers in North America are limited to 50 amps (40 amp charge rate 9.6 kW) - building code requires hardwiring if the circuit breaker is 51 amps or larger…smaller circuits can be hardwired _OR_ plug based.

daveo4porsche

also any electrician worth their salt can swap between a plug and hardwired setup in less than an hour once you have circuit/box with the power source/supply sorted to the "box" location…less than $30 worth of Home Depot parts can convert any hardwired connect to a plug (50 amps or less) - and you can always remove the plug and just hardwire any electrical device directly to the wires that were used for the plug (15 amps or more)…if you're 50 amps or smaller swapping between plugs and hardwiring is trivial…easy and honestly can be done in less than 30 min and some wire nuts…safely and to building code.

most EVSE's only use 3 wires - 2 hots + ground - the 4th neutral wire is _UNUSED_ - except in juice box - which uses the neutral and one of the hots for a 120V feed to run the onboard Juice box computer, but the actually charging of any L2 North American EV is purely a 3 wire affair - two hots + ground.

* - for L1 charging - it's still a 3 wire affair - but it's 1-hot, 1 neutral, 1 ground (like all 120 V circuits in North America) - but in the case of L1 vs. L2 - the same connector/pin is either Neutral/Hot in the J-1772 connector - so it's alway 3 wires _ONLY_ - either two hots + ground - or 1 hot + neutral + ground - there is never a J-1772 EV charging session with a 2 hots + neutral + ground…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772



the vehicle communicates with the EVSE via the blue connectors/pins - this is how the vehicle starts/stops the flow of power from the two "red pins/connectors" and also "learns" how many amps the EVSE can provide - the blue pins also serve the role of active communication "circuit" and unless they are actually communicating with a vehicle the EVSE's main job #1 is to never ever under any circumstance allow the two "red" pins to have any power flowing for safety - this is why an EVSE is _NOT_ a extension cord - power is never flowing if it's not plugged into a vehicle - making the J-1772 plug inert and safe in the rain/sleet/snow - you can drop it a puddle and it won't matter because the blue-pins won't see a "car" talking and therefore the EVSE "relay" is "open" with. no power on the high-voltage "red" pins…

as you can see from this picture there is _NO_ electrical Neutral in L2 charging - so the neutral blade/pin in the NEMA 14-50/14-30 supply cable is inert and unused - it serves no role in the charging of the vehicle - there is no PIN/connectors in the J-1772 plug for a 240V + neutral connector.


this is why Porsche can sell a NEMA 6-50 & 6-30 supply cable for the PMCC/PMC+ - the PMCC/PMC+ don't require/use the neutral connector - on the 14-50/14-30 supply cables there is the 4th blade for neutral, but it's a dummy blade and isn't wired up - it's provide for compabiltity with the NEMA 14-50 plug type - but isn't even used - if you look inside the PMCC/PMC+ end of the supply cable there is no wire/connector for Neurtal - only the two "hots" and the ground…

EVSE's are really very very simple 240V devices - and if you manage to get them two 120V feeds and a ground - you're done…the plug shape/type/size is really just un-necessary complexity.

daveo4porsche

my 3 favorite home non-mobile chargers are:

1. ClipperCreek 50-100 amp (pick your size) - the 60 amp's a great choice and will maximize your standard Taycan charge rate of 11 kW - dual charge split load support - 60 amp breaker (48 amp charge rate) $989
2. Porsche Wall Charger (adjustable 15-100 amp breaker) - $1586
3. Tesla Wall Charger (adjustable from 15 to 60 amps) - multiple charger (up to 16) split load support - $400 - * - Requires TeslaTap or similar to use with standard J-1772 EV's

at $400 for a 60 amp (48 amp charge rate) high quality EVSE the Tesla Wall Charger is hard to beat - and it's adjustable (hardwired) to match any breaker size…you can purchase two for the price of one ClipperCreek HCS-60 - and have the two Wall Chargers "share" a single 60 (or more) breaker - so you can charge two EV's at the same time at 1/2 speed or one EV at full speed.

ClipperCreek and/or the Tesla Wall charger can "share" a circuit with another charger - so that you can charge 2 EV's at home and yet only have one 240 volt circuit - and it will split the load when charging 2 EV's or provide the entire breaker capacity to one EV when only one is charging - this is multiple EV ownership happiness.

if you have the 19.2 kw Charging option on your Taycan

I recommend the 100 amp ClipperCreek _OR_ the Porsche Wall Charger connect - but you'll need your electrician to install a 100 amp 240 V circuit (breaker+wire) to power either one of these EVSE's - but if you do invest in level of setup you would be able to charge your Taycan w/19.2 kW charging option from empty to 100% in less than 6 hours…

EVSE's are not vendor or vehicle specific - so installing one of these is for your current and future EV's and you will not (should not) need to change anything for your next EV) and they will also charge your wife's Cayenne eHybrid, F150 EV, Rivian, or your Macan EV…so this is a one time thing and a resource for your garage - you don't need to swap these out every time you bring home a new EV.

daveo4porsche

I love this one - honestly -o 2 EV's one plug - 50 amps - easy peasy and you can charge one _OR_ two EV's (including Hybrids) - simple install…

https://store.clippercreek.com/featu...-station-14-50

daveo4porsche