Recently got a chance to check out a 2022 Model S Plaid and man what a wild ride! Build quality / interior is leaps and bounds better then Teslas years prior.

Seriously starting to debate picking up an electric sedan, never fully considered a Tesla but the Plaid got me thinking. For similar money as a 22 Plaid would put me in a '20-21 4S Taycan. I have not looked at taycans short of sitting in one.

Anyone got experience or cross shopped both that can chime in??

I like looks / interior of the Porsche better, but performance goes hands down to the Tesla. Other factors I've noticed in the PLAID has GREAT insulation, extremely smooth ride, great interior layout / touchscreen, awesome stereo system, great tech and quite roomy. Main dislikes? It looks 10 years old - and (model s) on every corner. All in all - still seems like a bargain in todays world for $130ish.

Thoughts?

 

Having owned 2 Tesla’s in the past (model s abs model x) you couldn’t pay me to buy another. My Taycan 4s is leaps and bounds ahead of the Tesla in build quality. Porsche all the way for me.

 

From a handling perspective, the Taycan is superior and the dynamics are on a different planet than the Tesla. "Performance" is a more than going fast from a stop.

 

while the tesla may be fast as hell, how fast can it stop?

 

You could not pay me to buy another Tesla (have owned 2). Their idea of service is a total clown show. The product is compelling in some areas (performance, range, efficiency, SOFTWARE) and utterly maddening in others (yoke, ride / handling parts quality, build quality, random software changes, etc.). If you want a fast EV that's not a Porsche, get in line for a Lucid.

I've not driven a Plaid. I imagine that the acceleration is stupendous and addicting.

Having said that..a Taycan is "enough" and having had a Model 3 Long Range and now a Performance, I rarely use that extra 1 second to 60 of performance vs. the Long Range.

Oh, and Full Self Driving is anything but and an utter farce. Their Auto Cruise is not smooth, but it works, but their Autosteer is best in the business.

 

the places where tesla has a big edge over the taycan is related to tech, their software, ability to offer complex updates OTA is light years ahead of porsche. the auto pilot on the tesla when used properly is great, much better than the innodrive setup and their general implementation of the tech is solid unlike the very glitchy tech found in the taycan.

 

Ditto. Plus that stupid video game steering wheel in the new S turns me off.

 

Sandy Munro is in the midst of doing a tear down on a Plaid, and has a number of YouTube videos on it. After doing a several thousand mile road trip in it, about the only complaint he had was an easily fixed misaligned window seal on one of the rear doors. Now doing the tear down, the main thing he has trashed them on so far was the lack of modularity of the door construction compared to the Model Y they tore down a few months ago.

Like the drivetrain, the suspension is entirely new and unlike any previous Model S. Watch Sandys videos on them. So old stereotypes are no longer valid. If you plan to track your car, they are offering a brake upgrade for a mere $20k.

As for the yoke, the only Plaid owner I've talked with was at a Supercharger last summer. He said it took him a day or two to get used to it. Munro made some comments on it in the road trip videos and I think he really came to like it too.

Wish Munro would do a tear down on a Taycan. He did do one on the ID.4 and wasn't very impressed.

 

My 2nd Tesla (Model S LR) should arrive mid-April.

My Model 3 has never been in the shop in 42k miles. The only repair it has needed was to replace a damaged parking sensor (damaged by road debris) and that was done by a Tesla mobile ranger tech in my garage. Appointment scheduled via the Tesla app. Service doesn’t get more convenient or easier than that, IMO.

The Plaid offers its own take on the $130K+ EV formula. If you appreciate its strengths you’d probably be very happy with it.

 

You're lucky. Model X are constantly in the shop with falcon door & other issues. I had two model 3 - 2019 & a 2020. Both needed enough work within the first 10K from new, enough to take them out of service for more than 2 days. The 2020 was shipped with the driver door sill missing!
Front axle clicking got really annoying very quickly then 2 service centers just kept throwing parts at the problem with zero results.

 

Same here with just under 50k miles. Never been to the service center for service since new. Mobile service in my driveway three times: Once to upgrade the FSD computer, and twice to diagnose, then replace, a rodent chewed wiring harness for the front lighting. (Symptom was one of the fog lights wasn't working.) Have rotated and gone through a set of tires. But used a regular tire shop for that.

 

like you guys my '19 model 3 LR performance was never serviced for anything major, I did have a few road ranger visits to replace a bad 12v battery, some B pillar clips that failed and other minor issues. overall the car was solid as was my '16 model s. now my '13 model S had all the issues that almost every tesla of that vintage had from bad battery contacts and drive unit replacement that I had to fight for before tesla realized that almost every drive unit had to be replaced.
the taycan is a regular visitor to the shop, mostly for software updates but also for module replacements and the massive and very frustrating software conflict that caused me to be unable to charge at most EA stations.
all in all I think that in one year my taycan visited the service center more times than my three tesla did over nine years or so.

 

Sorry to say, but I think Tesla reliability is better than the Taycan, at least the first 18 month of Taycan production.

I've put 55,000 miles on my Tesla model 3 performance daily driver and haven't had a single thing that needed service. That said, I still expect to eventually replace my M3P with a dual motor 718 BEV, but I may wait until the second year of production in case Porsche has teething issues with the new 718 BEV as well.

 

ive had way more problems with my taycan than any of my 6 teslas

 

FWIW- comparing a new Model S (not Plaid) to a Taycan Base

https://rennlist.com/forums/taycan/1...w-tesla-s.html