Data, Data and more Data....
Burning Brakes
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@osu s2k it's also less of an issue if your EV is closer to a 300 mile vehicle - the idea is that 250 miles is a rare dailiy need - and the few times a year you need more than daily usage the fast charging requirements are not that big of a deal or cost...
350 days a year it's no issue and you charged over night, saved money cause you're charging at home, never went to a gas station, and the car is zero emission and super quick - the 200+ mile use case is doable and rare - and honetly most people that have adapted to EV's quickly adapt and never want to drive a gas car again.
basically yeah EV's can't go very far, but they go far enough to cover 98% of your daily usage most of the year and the occasional time you need to fast charge it's worth the trade off for the better efficiency the rest of the year, and more convenient usage model year round - yeah your diesel can go father, but on how many days a year do you need all that range?
350 days a year it's no issue and you charged over night, saved money cause you're charging at home, never went to a gas station, and the car is zero emission and super quick - the 200+ mile use case is doable and rare - and honetly most people that have adapted to EV's quickly adapt and never want to drive a gas car again.
basically yeah EV's can't go very far, but they go far enough to cover 98% of your daily usage most of the year and the occasional time you need to fast charge it's worth the trade off for the better efficiency the rest of the year, and more convenient usage model year round - yeah your diesel can go father, but on how many days a year do you need all that range?
Burning Brakes
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From: Manitou Springs, CO
Again, very impressive results.
Nordschleife Master
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around town speeds are less than 65 mph so better range is expected...
I'm still curious as to what 65 mph can do - 200 miles still leads to an awkward number of fast charging stops…vs other EV's at 240/260 miles range
I'm still curious as to what 65 mph can do - 200 miles still leads to an awkward number of fast charging stops…vs other EV's at 240/260 miles range
7th Gear
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Why was there a fee? Did you not sign up for the 3 yr of free electrify America?
https://connect-store.porsche.com/us...charging_US_v1
https://connect-store.porsche.com/us...charging_US_v1
Burning Brakes
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From: Manitou Springs, CO
The major difference is that Tesla still has way better coverage overall. But for a given route with similar chargers and spacing, it doesn't seem to make much difference.
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The Taycan is definitely an anomaly. Pretty much all other EV's get less than the EPA rated range. So I was just being skeptical that suddenly the Taycan beats the numbers by a health margin. Like I said before most of the data has been based on the range indicated on the Taycan computer, not actual consumption data. This is the first consumption data I've seen from a variety of conditions.
Again, very impressive results.
Again, very impressive results.
that said I know the German press is not everybody’s cup of tea!
Burning Brakes
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@manitou202 awesome article! seems like 230 miles per charge is common! much better than 201! LOL on the EA problems - sigh - 3rd party charging networks!
3 mi/kwh is respectable and in line with a model S
3 mi/kwh is respectable and in line with a model S
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Agreed. 230 proven miles of range is a lot better than 201 EPA which tends to be optomistic.
So the Wh/mile ratings for the three journeys were;
369 Wh/mile over 134 miles including startup
321 Wh/mile over 143 miles
326 Wh/mile over 159 miles
Most of these in range modes, but with fairly high highway speeds.
I would consider those fairly respectable consumption numbers. Far less than Porsche's official listings for sure!
Worth pointing out this quote too...Taycan is something of an anomoly in the EV world:
So the Wh/mile ratings for the three journeys were;
369 Wh/mile over 134 miles including startup
321 Wh/mile over 143 miles
326 Wh/mile over 159 miles
Most of these in range modes, but with fairly high highway speeds.
I would consider those fairly respectable consumption numbers. Far less than Porsche's official listings for sure!
Worth pointing out this quote too...Taycan is something of an anomoly in the EV world:
So why the huge discrepancy? I honestly don't know. I've driven pretty much all of the EVs available today, and I usually agree with the EPA range rating. EV range is a moving target; there are a lot of factors that influence how far any EV can go. We already talked about battery temperature and weather conditions like rain we experienced above. Topography is another. We did lose 1,000 ft of elevation from Atlanta to Daytona Beach so that was helpful, but not really enough to make that much of a difference over a 436-mile drive.
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from the article
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The Taycan is the best all-electric sports car available today, and one of the best cars, period.
Look for posts later in the week on my Electrify America charging experience with the Taycan, and also on the Taycan's unique regenerative braking system
Racer
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FTA:
All those people who claimed that Porsche did the test, and that they knew that the EPA numbers was the "real" range were wrong.
In the case of the Taycan, the EPA decided to do their own range certification, and those numbers came out much lower than what Porsche expected.
All those people who claimed that Porsche did the test, and that they knew that the EPA numbers was the "real" range were wrong.
Racer
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I've driven pretty much all of the EVs available today, and I usually agree with the EPA range rating.
