Juan Lopez

my etron is showing 42.3kWh/100mi. Fantastic car!

Needsdecaf

In Florida? Yikes! That's pretty thirsty.

drcollie

My ETron average - 1,100 miles since new - is 43.5 kWh/100mi. In the Wash DC area, its been a bit chilly here so that may improve in the Spring.

Juan Lopez

Yup.

And you must be careful with the charge planning settings. Mine didnt charge last night. Down to 20%. Plugged at level 2 charger now!

sainthoo

Dumb question perhaps: For those with electric cars, what do you do, if you run out of charge? Can you “jump” the vehicle, or do you have to get towed?

Needsdecaf

You get towed.

But really, it's pretty rare that would actually happen. There are enough warnings and reduced performance so that you'd find someplace to charge first.

daveo4porsche

no different that running out of gasoline - there are some - mobile chargers, but those are rare - there are enough chargers in the world that a two to a nearby charger is rarely that far - and if you have a mobile charger in the car you can charge the car anywhere you can find an electrical outlet (not fast) - but once you're in that situation any power is better than no power

having driven now for almost 40 years I've seen people on the side of the road clearly out of gasoline - and seen them walking with a gasoline jug either from to to their car - yeah you can fill up a gasoline car and for some definition of "easy" it's easier - but if you're out in the boonies running out of EV juice is not much worse than running out of gasoline - and if you're in a urban areas you're much closer to a charger than you realize - and there is electricity EVERYWHERE with a mobile charger in the car (like the one that comes with the Taycan/eTron)

in 230,000 cumulative miles on my various EV's we've never actually hit "empty" - I've arrived in my garage @ 3% (like the trip computer told me I would) - but never empty...

_IF_ I were to run out of juice, I'd find the nearest electrical outlet (240 volt if I could) plug in for a bit to get enough charge to get to the closest fast charger - the silver lining here is that EV batteries charge fastest when they are empty - so if you can get the car to a near by fast charger (more every day) - 15-20 min you'll back to 50% battery capacity cause it will charge really really fast.

running out of gas or electricity is a pain in the a$$ in either type of car - EV's slightly more so- but it's better to avoid it all together.

whiz944

You get "the hook".

But realistically, there are about 100,000 gas stations (and falling) in the U.S. There are 80+ million single family homes - pretty much all with power. Most EV drivers just charge at home at night, like one does with a cell phone, and this handles nearly all daily driving. On road trips there are electrical outlets in the wild all over the place. You just have to know where to look.

One Really Useful and Highly Recommended resource is plugshare. (https://www.plugshare.com/ plus apps for your iPhone and/or Android phone.) It is a crowdsourced database of charging locations of all stripes and colors. For a Taycan, you'd want to set at least the CCS (DC fast charging) and J1772 (slower AC charging) filters. Plus, if you carry your mobile charge cord, select the NEMA 14-50 filter for RV parks and such. And as Daveo has mentioned in other threads, if you carry a JDapter adapter, you could use Tesla Destination charging stations. Select the "Tesla" (but NOT "Supercharger") filter to find them. Depending on desperate need, you could also enable the "Wall" filter for really slow 120V charging.

About a quarter of the 20k miles on my Model 3 are road trip miles. On the road, I've generally just used high speed DC charging (Superchargers in the case of Tesla, but I've also used CHAdeMO a couple of times via the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter. With a Taycan you'd want to look for CCS sites.) I've camped out overnight at RV parks a couple of times in remote locations, and used their 14-50 receptacles to do overnight charging.

When staying at hotels and motels, one can often find 5-15 and 5-20 (120V, 15 and 20 amp) receptacles around the parking lots. In a Model 3, this can be good for 50-80 miles of charge overnight - so worth doing. A Taycan seems like it will consume quite a bit more power per mile. So maybe you'll get an extra 25-30 miles overnight. One question I'd have for Porsche is if they support 20 and 30 amp (16 and 24 amp continuous) charging at 120 volts - assuming the EVSE says it is safe to do so. Or if, like GM and perhaps others, they limit you to 12 amps regardless.

Whoopsy

Just pack a Honda generator in the truck.

wogamax

Speaking to -35F EV performance is almost like buying a street-EV on 'Ring times. Steady highway speeds and especially the heat pump are important, here. The range gap at normal temperatures, and whether your Model X had PM or induction motors is, too.

These cars aren't the same, after all!

acoste

Do you guys see an improvement in highway range for raven vs pre-raven Model X? Epa test shows small difference for the highway cycle. (city range increased big time)

2017 Model X 100D 20" EPA highway cycle: 415.35 mi
2019 Model X LR 20" EPA highway cycle: 425.18 mi

+2.4%

2017 EPA city: 403.98mi
2019 EPA city: 449.88mi

+11.4%


EPA range:
295 mi
328 mi

+11.2%

This is the power of Elon Musk. Managed to increase EPA rating by 11% even though the meaningful highway range increased 2% only.

Bob Roberts

maybe tesla specific comments should be in a tesla thread otherwise every thread here gets polluted with tesla talk.

in the mean time, let me tell you about Scientology.

JMartinni

But the E-tron SUV and Taycan don't share the same platform and tech (unlike the upcoming E-Tron GT), so they're not that comparable.

Whoopsy

That.

e-Tron, like all Teslas, are on last generation 400V technology. Taycan and the upcoming e-Tron GT are on the next generation 800V system.

drcollie

Interesting read in The Washington Post today on Tesla's risky strategy to get more EV range from their vehicles. Also mentions the Taycan and E-Tron, as well as other marque's range.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...battery-range/