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I thought that rennlist would lead me to an archived copy of the Porsche microsite, but it's just a dead link. (Scroll down in thread) However, there ARE pictures from the microsite and there's tons of thread here to read. I can't believe I never caught this one before!
Can anyone identify this car? I think this is a new one to add to the PTS list as I don't think that's the standard Guards red. Doesn't it look orange?:
That is indeed Guards Red. It's a very light sensitive color - can look anywhere from orange to deep red.
I was a bit surprised after weighing my 11 Spyder today.
It's a PDK, sofas, AC, radio/nav.
1/2 tank of fuel. No driver
Weighed 3069lbs. I figured it would certainly be under 3,000lbs.
Cross weights were excellent at 50%/50%
Anyone else actually weigh theirs?
I was a bit surprised after weighing my 11 Spyder today.
It's a PDK, sofas, AC, radio/nav.
1/2 tank of fuel. No driver
Weighed 3069lbs. I figured it would certainly be under 3,000lbs.
Cross weights were excellent at 50%/50%
Anyone else actually weigh theirs?
Actually that sounds about right. PDK weighs about 60 lbs more than the manual, sofa’s add about 27 lbs and the AC/Radio add another 60 lbs. Add fuel to the equation and you’re numbers get close to the 3069 lbs.
Were you corner balancing the car or just had it on the scales to determine weight?
I was a bit surprised after weighing my 11 Spyder today.
It's a PDK, sofas, AC, radio/nav.
1/2 tank of fuel. No driver
Weighed 3069lbs. I figured it would certainly be under 3,000lbs.
Cross weights were excellent at 50%/50%
Anyone else actually weigh theirs?
Real world intel. Lookng forward to others weighing their new similarily spec'd 981 and 718 for a decent comparison.
Afshin,
If you look at the cross weights on the scale, mine didn't need corner balancing. Not sure how you would corner balance with stock suspension.
Porsche did a fine job right off the showroom floor.
Bobby
I weighed my 987.2 Spyder. 1,394kg (3,073lb). Full fuel tank, PDK, LWB, Aircon, Radio, no driver.Front/Rear distribution (no driver) was 46/54%
A full tank of gas is 14.3 US Gallons or 54 litres. If we take a weight of 0.72kg per litre of gas then take off 19.44 kgs or 43lbs from my weight to be comparable, so 3,030 lbs for me. The difference of 39 lbs is probably mostly in the sofas vs lwb and I imagine there’s also a weighing accuracy error as well. The weight is surprising considering the aluminium parts and no motorised roof.
Just got back home and took a look. The only discernible difference I can see is that the cable end fixing is able to be pushed back out of the spring whereas the original appears to have the cable end locked into the spring. Of course there is a possibility that 10 years of use have wedged the fixture in the spring end. The break in the original was at the point where the cable meets the fixed point at the spring. Maybe this new design allows the cable to move independently of the spring and not bend unnecessarily? Luckily it’s a relatively cheap part and the 2015 manufacture date gives some confidence you don’t need to buy now and hoard.
Addendum. I had another good look and I now understand what the change actually is.
The original one wore where the cable was unsheathed and entering the spring. When the cable flexes that’s the weak point. To mitigate that they have lengthened the spring so the potential flex point is further up the cable where it is sheathed. There is no effective way to modify an existing one to strengthen it and it’s not overly expensive to buy new.
The diagram included in my glove box shows the spring end being tucked into a pocket in the top when you remove it. That forces the cable to do a tight 180 bend, so I wonder if you skip that step and just leave the spring end loose if it would fail at all. Might be worth making a neoprene or fabric "tube" to sheath the spring to keep it from flopping around while in storage and scratching things up. Since the loop end of the cable doesn't get tucked, I would assume the scratch/rub is the reason they have the pocket on the top.
The diagram included in my glove box shows the spring end being tucked into a pocket in the top when you remove it. That forces the cable to do a tight 180 bend, so I wonder if you skip that step and just leave the spring end loose if it would fail at all. Might be worth making a neoprene or fabric "tube" to sheath the spring to keep it from flopping around while in storage and scratching things up. Since the loop end of the cable doesn't get tucked, I would assume the scratch/rub is the reason they have the pocket on the top.
As someone who just found out about that specific pocket (after owning the car for 7 months) I'd agree that scratching/rubbing is the reason for the pocket. I had to be very delicate when rolling/unrolling the top that the heavy spring end didn't flop and hit the car. Now that I know about the pocket after looking through the manual the other night, I have a new lease on life.
01-02-2020, 08:21 PM
