Is non-dealership maintenance a bad idea?
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Racer
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Is non-dealership maintenance a bad idea?
Coming up on a major service and the dealership is quoting me >$1K more than a well-regarded local Porsche only shop. Is there a risk in resale value not having it serviced at the official Porsche facility? The dealership is presumably the standard of care, but at some point cost does become a factor, no?
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08-04-2024, 09:22 AM
Burning Brakes
in many cases the independent technicians are some of the better Porsche trained technicians that have ventured on their own. And in many cases, they are better than what you will find at the dealership. The trick is knowing which independent dealers have those type of techs and which do not.
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A Porsche store has serious requirements for technicians and required equipment and tools. Ask a dealer principal how much money they spend on diagnostic equipment and tools is annually. A non Porsche store may not have those requirements and standards. Example Porsche early this year changed the oil requirements for newer GT CARS. What oil is the non Porsche store using. Where all service done and required would matter to me.
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Burning Brakes
in many cases the independent technicians are some of the better Porsche trained technicians that have ventured on their own. And in many cases, they are better than what you will find at the dealership. The trick is knowing which independent dealers have those type of techs and which do not.
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A Porsche store has serious requirements for technicians and required equipment and tools. Ask a dealer principal how much money they spend on diagnostic equipment and tools is annually. A non Porsche store may not have those requirements and standards. Example Porsche early this year changed the oil requirements for newer GT CARS. What oil is the non Porsche store using. Where all service done and required would matter to me.
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Ha ha ha. My independent shop uses C 40 approved oil in 992s, C 30 approved oil in Cayennes and A 40 approved oil in 991s. My Porsche dealership, on the other hand, does not. The Porsche dealer uses same 5W-40 oil it buys by the 55 gal.barrel in all cars: 992, Cayennes, 991’s, etc. The Amalie 5W-40 oil it uses has NO Porsche approvals whatsoever (C 40, not C 30 not A 40). Porsche dealers owned by Penske use Pennzoil which does not have a C 40 approved oil either.
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Racer
shrimp money I wish this were true. Equipment aside, Laziness and lack of care is prevalent at $225/hr as well.
Fullyield Ha ha ha. My independent shop uses C 40 approved oil in 992s, C 30 approved oil in Cayennes and A 40 approved oil in 991s. My Porsche dealership, on the other hand, does not. The Porsche dealer uses same 5W-40 oil it buys by the 55 gal.barrel in all cars: 992, Cayennes, 991’s, etc. The Amalie 5W-40 oil it uses has NO Porsche approvals whatsoever (C 40, not C 30 not A 40). Porsche dealers owned by Penske use Pennzoil which does not have a C 40 approved oil either.
This is exactly why I change my own oil or have a quality Indy shop tech do it. I make sure the right oil goes in my car. Plus I take my time and don't have my engine compartment all grease-balled up from the quick change artist at the dealership.
Fullyield Ha ha ha. My independent shop uses C 40 approved oil in 992s, C 30 approved oil in Cayennes and A 40 approved oil in 991s. My Porsche dealership, on the other hand, does not. The Porsche dealer uses same 5W-40 oil it buys by the 55 gal.barrel in all cars: 992, Cayennes, 991’s, etc. The Amalie 5W-40 oil it uses has NO Porsche approvals whatsoever (C 40, not C 30 not A 40). Porsche dealers owned by Penske use Pennzoil which does not have a C 40 approved oil either.
This is exactly why I change my own oil or have a quality Indy shop tech do it. I make sure the right oil goes in my car. Plus I take my time and don't have my engine compartment all grease-balled up from the quick change artist at the dealership.
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The only way to be absolutely certain it is done right is to do it yourself.
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Drifting
I see many independent shop advertising in the PCA chapter magazine, I would try them first.
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Coming up on a major service and the dealership is quoting me >$1K more than a well-regarded local Porsche only shop. Is there a risk in resale value not having it serviced at the official Porsche facility? The dealership is presumably the standard of care, but at some point cost does become a factor, no?
The only way to be absolutely certain it is done wrong, is for me to do it myself.
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Something to consider (although not sure how I feel about this yet) - when I traded in recently, they told me they couldn’t give me more on my trade since I had used an independent, they couldn’t CPO my trade in or they would have to redo all the maintenance at the dealer. In some quick research, there may be something to this, but don’t really know. Not sure if they actually re-did the maintenance, but they did sell the car as a CPO. So could factor into calculus if you plan to trade to P dealer.
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You actually believed that?
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Something to consider (although not sure how I feel about this yet) - when I traded in recently, they told me they couldn’t give me more on my trade since I had used an independent, they couldn’t CPO my trade in or they would have to redo all the maintenance at the dealer. In some quick research, there may be something to this, but don’t really know. Not sure if they actually re-did the maintenance, but they did sell the car as a CPO. So could factor into calculus if you plan to trade to P dealer.
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Something to consider (although not sure how I feel about this yet) - when I traded in recently, they told me they couldn’t give me more on my trade since I had used an independent, they couldn’t CPO my trade in or they would have to redo all the maintenance at the dealer. In some quick research, there may be something to this, but don’t really know. Not sure if they actually re-did the maintenance, but they did sell the car as a CPO. So could factor into calculus if you plan to trade to P dealer.
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Honestly, didn’t matter much as it was a requirement at the time to get the allocation, but I thought we ended up at a fair price (from a dealer for a trade). I thought I found more at the time, but the fourth bullet MIGHT give credence to the statement:
Porsche Approved. Porsche Approved means:
Porsche Approved. Porsche Approved means:
- - 2 Years / Unlimited Miles Warranty coverage after the expiration of the new vehicle limited warranty or from the date of sale if the new vehicle limited warranty has expired*
- - The vehicle meets the Porsche preparation standards
- - The certification vehicle has been inspected in compliance with our 111-point checklist
- - All work has been performed by Porsche trained technicians
- - Only Genuine Porsche parts have been used