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Fabspeed Motorsport Proudly Carries 964 911Chips/Steve Wong DME Upgrades
When the topic of 964 tuning comes up on the forum, there is one name that comes up every time...Steve Wong at 911Chips. For years we have been including his DME chips in our full performance packages for the 964, and have been nothing but thrilled with his work. We now offer the Steve Wong 964 DME Chip Upgrade separately on our website, so for anyone that is interested in pursuing this upgrade, please feel free to reach out to me any time. Below is some information taken from 911chips.com to give you a feel for the upgrade.
"Performance DME chip upgrade improves horsepower, torque, and driving characteristics by reprogramming various sensor inputs, air/fuel ratios, and boost pressure (if applicable).
Available for all 964 Carrera 2/4 models 1989-1994
Not just another 'one size fits all' performance chip. Hundreds of hours of code revisions and road and dyno testing on over a hundred Carrera 3.6s have unleashed new pockets of performance previously undiscovered - performance unavailable from anywhere else. No one else has even come close to the amount of research performed on chipping the 3.6 engine. Guaranteed to outperform, all chips have a 100% satisfaction guarantee. With a wide matrix of chip programs available to suit a variety of engine performance modifications and owner preferences, the most popular are listed below. This insures the optimum setup for each particular car.
Programs are available for both the catalyst spec U.S. motors, and the Euro/ROW spec cars. All programming for US version cars by default is for 91 or higher octane fuel. If programming for 93 octane fuel is preferred, please note your octane preferences. For Euro/ROW spec cars, default chip programming is for 95 RON octane fuel. If programming for 98 RON fuel is preferred, please note your octane preference.
The following dyno runs are from a pristine low mile '94 964 RS America on a Dynojet 248x. Engine is completely stock with the exception of a Fabspeed Sport Cat, a Fabspeed Maxflo Exhaust, a modified cut open airbox cover, and the 964 performance chip. Baseline dyno with 91 octane California pump gas, this car produces 237 hp at the rear wheels with the stock chip (blue curves). With our retuned performance chip, the car now dynos 251 hp at the rear wheels (red curves). Calculating for a 15% transmission loss, this engine produces 296 HP at the crank, a 17 hp improvement at the engine, along with a substantial 8-17 ft-lb torque increase through the rpm range."
John, you probably need a dropdown list on the order page so that people can specify the type of chip that they need (stock, cat bypass, fuel octane, etc).
John, you probably need a dropdown list on the order page so that people can specify the type of chip that they need (stock, cat bypass, fuel octane, etc).
Just had that conversation with our marketing guy about 15 minutes ago haha. As of right now, orders that come through will be contacted with an tuning form to fill out on the variables needed to order the proper DME chip.
With a stock setup/chip are the performance gains noticeable?
Not sure about taking the plunge into exhaust upgrades, yet.
I had had my car for about two years before installing the chip, so impressions at the time:
Installed the chip, started the car... rock solid idle (just like before). Much better throttle response and power below 4000 RPM. Which is exactly what I was looking for. I only have butt-dyno impressions, but I'm driving the car differently now because the power and response is different. I drive the car a lot, the chip has definitely made a positive change to the feel of the car.
do they make one for a TIP? Does it change shift patterns other than the learned ones it has now.
When I was looking for a Tip for my wife, I talked to Steve Wong and he said he could make a chip that would really improve things. Talk to him about your setup.
It's no secret that Steve just tunes the fuel and timing maps, and a tweak for lwfw stalling. Tiptronic shift points won't change, but you'll still get the hp/tq benefit of the timing changes.
I dyno'ed my 100% stock C4 before/after his 93oct chip. WOT gains on a stock engine/exhaust are not immense. Mostly you'll notice much improved part-throttle response. The "on cam" rush around 4500rpm disappears and instead you get more power below 4500rpm to smooth out the acceleration. He's obviously put in a lot of time on the dyno to tune the ignition maps and it shows. I use the 93oct chip that I bought from him as a base for my personal chip tweaks. Definitely a recommended modification, just don't expect an extra liter worth of power.
Love my 93 octane, cat bypass Wong chip. Have also enjoyed a rock solid 880 RPM idle for years... Thanks Steve!
Thanks for chiming in! Always a pleasure to chat with him haha.
Originally Posted by salty87
With a stock setup/chip are the performance gains noticeable?
Not sure about taking the plunge into exhaust upgrades, yet.
911Jetta said it best, but essentially yes they are nicely noticeable but not as much as if you were to have other upgrades to take advantage of like our Catbypass Pipe.
Originally Posted by jimq
do they make one for a TIP? Does it change shift patterns other than the learned ones it has now.
Yes DME chips are available for the Tiptronic vehicles, and it does not control the shifting characteristics of the transmission
Originally Posted by 911Jetta
I had had my car for about two years before installing the chip, so impressions at the time:
Regarding chips and exhausts, I noticed the biggest improvement after deleting the cat. Better sound, throttle response, etc.
Excellent feedback, thanks for chiming in! : )
Originally Posted by Vandit
RL 964 subforum discount pricing?
PM heading your way
Originally Posted by -nick
It's no secret that Steve just tunes the fuel and timing maps, and a tweak for lwfw stalling. Tiptronic shift points won't change, but you'll still get the hp/tq benefit of the timing changes.
I dyno'ed my 100% stock C4 before/after his 93oct chip. WOT gains on a stock engine/exhaust are not immense. Mostly you'll notice much improved part-throttle response. The "on cam" rush around 4500rpm disappears and instead you get more power below 4500rpm to smooth out the acceleration. He's obviously put in a lot of time on the dyno to tune the ignition maps and it shows. I use the 93oct chip that I bought from him as a base for my personal chip tweaks. Definitely a recommended modification, just don't expect an extra liter worth of power.
Thanks for chiming in with your feedback Nick, great description of the powercurve characteristics!
Maxflo Exhaust + Cat Bypass + Wong Chip = Awesomeness!
The parts really livened up the previously stock car. It's got a bit of a growl now and while it was perfectly capable of spinning the tach up before there's little comparison. Between the delightful sound and thirsty engine I find myself having to slow down to posted speed limits alot more now. It's like a new car.
Despite reading about stinky Cat Bypass issues it's not been a problem at all even with the top down. When it's not down the windows are open to hear the exhaust more. No smells, running 93 octane. No idea if that matters. The chip is programmed accordingly.
Fabspeed John was great to work with. Very responsive and fantastic customer service.
I'm throwing shade on fabspeed because their manufacturing is slow. 6 weeks for a left side 964 maxflow exhaust pipe is unacceptable. I'm talking just the pipe. A 10 inch bent stainless pipe! 6 weeks?? Good service should get praise, but bad service gets its due as well. I can walk to fabspeed, bend the pipe myself, and walk home in less than 6 weeks.
Maxflo Exhaust + Cat Bypass + Wong Chip = Awesomeness!
The parts really livened up the previously stock car. It's got a bit of a growl now and while it was perfectly capable of spinning the tach up before there's little comparison. Between the delightful sound and thirsty engine I find myself having to slow down to posted speed limits alot more now. It's like a new car.
Despite reading about stinky Cat Bypass issues it's not been a problem at all even with the top down. When it's not down the windows are open to hear the exhaust more. No smells, running 93 octane. No idea if that matters. The chip is programmed accordingly.
Fabspeed John was great to work with. Very responsive and fantastic customer service.
Hey Salty, thanks for chiming in regarding your experience with us! We think that cars deserve an exhaust note/tone that matches their prowess... in my eyes a louder car is always more fun! Great to see you reporting back with an enhanced driving experience. That's what we're here to provide!
John has recently moved on to work with AutoQuest Motorsports in Florida, but I'll be on here every day providing the same level of service and assistance! Please don't hesitate to reach out if I can be of assistance to you, or if you just wanna talk Porsche
Originally Posted by Derek911
I'm throwing shade on fabspeed because their manufacturing is slow. 6 weeks for a left side 964 maxflow exhaust pipe is unacceptable. I'm talking just the pipe. A 10 inch bent stainless pipe! 6 weeks?? Good service should get praise, but bad service gets its due as well. I can walk to fabspeed, bend the pipe myself, and walk home in less than 6 weeks.
Derek -- thanks for jumping in here and providing some feedback. I certainly understand that waiting for lead times can be frustrated; from the picture you paint, it sounds like you think it takes us 6 weeks to get your actual pipe completed. As if we had one welder who throws an arc for a few minutes, sits down, takes a nap, gets back to it a few days later... LOL! The actual truth is quite the opposite (and just for reference I presented that scenario simply for humor's sake ) In all seriousness, We have an incredible team of highly skilled preppers and welders working 10 hour days to carefully craft the premium products that we supply. They work extremely hard to give each and every order the attention it deserves to produce the high-quality results that we demand for each and every product we send out the door (we have hundreds of orders and there are always more coming in!). If I put your order ahead of everyone else's on the fabrication list because it took less time, that would result in other unhappy customers (some Audi and Lambo systems can take up to 18 hours to complete, they are basically functional welded sculptures!!). We are working tirelessly every day to decrease our lead time, which is after all an industry leading timeframe for a hand-built, proven-power-making, premium product.
Originally Posted by dukmon
Slow service doesn't necessarily mean bad service.
Thanks for the vote of confidence dukmon! We believe in our products and know that they are worth the wait!
04-05-2017, 04:24 PM
Fabspeed Motorsport Proudly Carries 964 911Chips/Steve Wong DME Upgrades
The actual truth is quite the opposite (and just for reference I presented that scenario simply for humor's sake 
) In all seriousness, We have an incredible team of highly skilled preppers and welders working 10 hour days to carefully craft the premium products that we supply. They work extremely hard to give each and every order the attention it deserves to produce the high-quality results that we demand for each and every product we send out the door (we have hundreds of orders and there are always more coming in!). If I put your order ahead of everyone else's on the fabrication list because it took less time, that would result in other unhappy customers (some Audi and Lambo systems can take up to 18 hours to complete, they are basically functional welded sculptures!!). We are working tirelessly every day to decrease our lead time, which is after all an industry leading timeframe for a hand-built, proven-power-making, premium product. 