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The flipping of the 911R(s) may in the long run be a good thing.
The 918 VIPs that have amazing collections and are/or who true enthusiasts have and will keep arguably the best overall best street Porsche ever built. Allot of these great guys we are fortunate to have on this forum and I really enjoy their posts and perspective and real word reviews. Also a great source for some inside info.
For the flippers it hopefully means more future GT and exclusive vehicles available to the general public as they will be out of the program. The $$ value of the R like most things will sort out over time. I don't have the attitude that I want it to tank. It should be what Porsche intended it to be a super super exclusive car. They could have been a little more honest about it. I think having it on the configurator was a little to much. Why be happy if it tanks the flipper already made his money.
Funny I ask myself what I would do in similar position. Although I am comfortable financially it would be tough to pass up a 400K payday. Even for some 918 VIPs this might be worth it as who knows what the future brings.
This also helps me put into perspective why I never "deserved" this car in the first place. Don't get me wrong I would LOVE to be in a position to own and keep one but I'm not a 918 VIP (those guys anted up allot of money at a time when things were less than certain) and no where close in terms of my Porsche buying history as most here on Rennlist but I'm trying. I think there were only 7 non 918 guys who got a 911R. Those would be the guys to direct anger towards if they decided to flip as they must have been hand selected.
I was "first" on 2 lists. Champion Porsche and Porsche Fairfield. This was so early on when the R rumor first surfaced. Both dealers had no idea what I was talking about but took a deposit. Then when the Rennsport Edition came out they both told me I didnt get the "R". This was nice that they actually tried to get me a limited car but I redirected them to the 911 "R"
Anyway from what I remember the 911R initially was to be a non- wide body 911 N/A lightweight manual non GT drivers car that was not to be limited. Sounds nice. Hopefully Porsche is listening. Maybe the move to turbos changed the approach; not sure.
You hit it right on the head^
Buying Porsche GT/RS was never a financial decision! It always used to be a emotional one.
That has changed and that's the main reason this bubble will pop.
This whole thing is an exact repeat of the 993 explosion two years ago. If you want to save yourselves some time do a few searches and reading. Lots of "investors" over there now! Every thread turned into a "what's my car worth". This $hit gets really old after a while.
I don't know, but from what I've heard it wouldn't surprise me at all.
On the flip side, I've just seen a link to what's supposedly a new GT3, which sounds a lot like the old one.
The turbo theory is dead. The only ? is if it will be a 3.8l or the 4.0l engine. My money is on the 4.0l. For two reasons. The MT R is already hooked up to that engine and second reason is that I just can't see them going back in displacement from gen1 RS.
I don't know, but from what I've heard it wouldn't surprise me at all.
On the flip side, I've just seen a link to what's supposedly a new GT3, which sounds a lot like the old one.
Starting buy up humble pie stock, I hear a big order is on the way next March......
Just had a couple of Hrs in the 991 R, its really very good. Like from a fun interaction point. The best 911 I have ever owned/driven...
..............................................
918
991RS
991GT3
997 4.0 RS
Turbo S Gen 2
GT4
Cayenne 4.2D
991 R
LT-SP
and a few others.....
I totally agree with Apolo1, spent a few hours in one and found it the most fun, engaging Porsche I've driven.
Originally Posted by Apolo1
Starting buy up humble pie stock, I hear a big order is on the way next March......
Just had a couple of Hrs in the 991 R, its really very good. Like from a fun interaction point. The best 911 I have ever owned/driven...
..............................................
918
991RS
991GT3
997 4.0 RS
Turbo S Gen 2
GT4
Cayenne 4.2D
991 R
LT-SP
and a few others.....
Maybe he does not sell over MSRP to you but to us J6P, Newport did ask over MSRP for their GT cars. The last 3 brand new GT4 I saw in their showroom all had $15k markup.
Play games with GT models, and screw up the 991.2 street Carrera's going turbo (killing off NA engines) doesn't fair well for 911 sales.
I have no issues having SUV's, but walk into most Porsche dealers. How many sports cars do you see?
You have a whole new generation that will think Porsche is a sedan and SUV company.
Look at how many adults became Porsche fans by falling in love with the 911 at an early age. Will they be as successful with the next generation?? I think they may lose many of them.
09-01-2016, 04:54 PM
