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#46
Captain Obvious
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#47
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Where in my statement did I say to lie to the new owner or potential buyer? The bottom line is that a car is worth significantly less in the used market if it has an accident on its history, especially on a car like a Porsche.
My car has a clean history, but it looks like the front has been resprayed at some point, probably due to rock chips. Didnt phase me during purchase, as I could tell there was no serious accident, and the history was clean.
Even a dealer will repair and respray a brand new car, and sell it as new if it gets chipped in transport. And nothing will be on the history.
Factory paint is not some magical substance that can never be repaired. I would much rather purchase a car with a high-end professional front end respray then a car with rock chips all over. But not if it had an accident history, unless there was a major discount.
#48
Captain Obvious
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That's what you were implying. There is no price difference if a car has a minkr repair on carproof. Factory paint IS magical, yet to see a body shop go through the same process as the facoty. Over time, you can always tell when a panel is painted as they age differently. Unless the dealer shows you pictures of what the car looed before the "just a bumper respray" you will have no idea if they are telling the thruth or not. You would be amazed how good of a job a good shop can do to a car that was in a major collision.
#49
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Any car with an accident on it's history is worth less than the exact same car without one.
http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/that-f...ate-1642640784
http://insurance.lawyers.com/auto-in...hed-value.html
http://www.carfax.com/guides/selling...ect-car-prices
Factory paint IS magical, yet to see a body shop go through the same process as the facoty. Over time, you can always tell when a panel is painted as they age differently. Unless the dealer shows you pictures of what the car looed before the "just a bumper respray" you will have no idea if they are telling the thruth or not. You would be amazed how good of a job a good shop can do to a car that was in a major collision.
You dont seem to get the point, even a car sold as BRAND NEW at a dealer is not guaranteed to have your magical factory paint with extra pixie dust. Cars are routinely repaired after they have left the factory, when they are damaged in transport. But the car is still sold as brand new. There is no guarantee that you have factory fresh paint (aka magic paint), even when you buy a brand new car from the dealer.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/06/n...damage-repair/
Furthermore, go to any high end body-shop and ask them what they think of factory paint. First thing theyll do is point out the orange peel in your magic paint. Easy fix right? Wrong again. The factory paint is often so thin that you are not going to be able to wet sand the orange peel out without ruining the paint job. A high end aftermarket respray has the potential to be, not just as good, but significantly better than the factory paint job.
I am not going to argue with you any more about paint work, because its clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Last edited by halo777; 08-28-2016 at 08:53 PM.
#51
Team Owner
ok meanwhile ... back at he point of this thread ....
Rod I was able to get the person who hit me info .
no deductible on my part and no fault for Micheal as he was not even in the car.
I asked if it was okay if we went until fault is assessed before we proceed with anything. She said that's perfectly okay. They will contact the other insurance company to make sure the person who has called there insurance company.
She says this one is pretty well a slam dunk given they admitted fault and no one was in the car. She did say we should have at least reported it to the police as a hit and run.
My Big concern was a claim against Micheal and she put my mind at ease.
Rod I was able to get the person who hit me info .
no deductible on my part and no fault for Micheal as he was not even in the car.
I asked if it was okay if we went until fault is assessed before we proceed with anything. She said that's perfectly okay. They will contact the other insurance company to make sure the person who has called there insurance company.
She says this one is pretty well a slam dunk given they admitted fault and no one was in the car. She did say we should have at least reported it to the police as a hit and run.
My Big concern was a claim against Micheal and she put my mind at ease.
#52
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ok meanwhile ... back at he point of this thread ....
Rod I was able to get the person who hit me info .
no deductible on my part and no fault for Micheal as he was not even in the car.
I asked if it was okay if we went until fault is assessed before we proceed with anything. She said that's perfectly okay. They will contact the other insurance company to make sure the person who has called there insurance company.
She says this one is pretty well a slam dunk given they admitted fault and no one was in the car. She did say we should have at least reported it to the police as a hit and run.
My Big concern was a claim against Micheal and she put my mind at ease.
Rod I was able to get the person who hit me info .
no deductible on my part and no fault for Micheal as he was not even in the car.
I asked if it was okay if we went until fault is assessed before we proceed with anything. She said that's perfectly okay. They will contact the other insurance company to make sure the person who has called there insurance company.
She says this one is pretty well a slam dunk given they admitted fault and no one was in the car. She did say we should have at least reported it to the police as a hit and run.
My Big concern was a claim against Micheal and she put my mind at ease.
All of this is such a PITA!
#53
Captain Obvious
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Wrong, buddy. You are wrong, period. Its called diminished value.
Any car with an accident on it's history is worth less than the exact same car without one.
http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/that-f...ate-1642640784
http://insurance.lawyers.com/auto-in...hed-value.html
http://www.carfax.com/guides/selling...ect-car-prices
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You dont seem to get the point, even a car sold as BRAND NEW at a dealer is not guaranteed to have your magical factory paint with extra pixie dust. Cars are routinely repaired after they have left the factory, when they are damaged in transport. But the car is still sold as brand new. There is no guarantee that you have factory fresh paint (aka magic paint), even when you buy a brand new car from the dealer.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/06/n...damage-repair/
Furthermore, go to any high end body-shop and ask them what they think of factory paint. First thing theyll do is point out the orange peel in your magic paint. Easy fix right? Wrong again. The factory paint is often so thin that you are not going to be able to wet sand the orange peel out without ruining the paint job. A high end aftermarket respray has the potential to be, not just as good, but significantly better than the factory paint job.
I am not going to argue with you any more about paint work, because its clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Any car with an accident on it's history is worth less than the exact same car without one.
http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/that-f...ate-1642640784
http://insurance.lawyers.com/auto-in...hed-value.html
http://www.carfax.com/guides/selling...ect-car-prices
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You dont seem to get the point, even a car sold as BRAND NEW at a dealer is not guaranteed to have your magical factory paint with extra pixie dust. Cars are routinely repaired after they have left the factory, when they are damaged in transport. But the car is still sold as brand new. There is no guarantee that you have factory fresh paint (aka magic paint), even when you buy a brand new car from the dealer.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/06/n...damage-repair/
Furthermore, go to any high end body-shop and ask them what they think of factory paint. First thing theyll do is point out the orange peel in your magic paint. Easy fix right? Wrong again. The factory paint is often so thin that you are not going to be able to wet sand the orange peel out without ruining the paint job. A high end aftermarket respray has the potential to be, not just as good, but significantly better than the factory paint job.
I am not going to argue with you any more about paint work, because its clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.
#55
Rennlist Member
go to any body shop and review the cars they have painted and you will see major flaws that would never leave any car factory. Most body shops here deliver crap results, unless they are charging a premium and the customer actually cares to examine the car, and then they usually end up having to redo it anyway.
btw pretty strong words from someone uninformed
#57
Team Owner
my 944 was diamond blue metallic and had all original paint. I wet sanded it and it looked gorgeous. No issues at all. Cars are all clear coated anyway and what most people don't realize is its just paint with no pigment. so lots to work with and it came up gorgeous.
Guess i'm getting a new one too....
Guess i'm getting a new one too....