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Old 08-19-2016 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by moab
if you have a cop buddy, yes.
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All entries into CIPIC (or local systems connect to it) are logged and require an incident/occurrence report number. Anyone not entering this info is subject to review by the commander and possible police act charges could occur. All of this is a result of a few bad apples spying on ex-girlfriends/wives and stalking charges. There is no direct check on MTO data or insurance info as it is processed through a central data system that connects to these other data systems. I've been told that commanders can check on data use as part of the PDR process.

Same thing at Service Ontario where access is controlled ever since the 'bikers' got a girlfriend employed in a privately run outlet that was checking plates for the bikers on any car parked near their club house or ones they thought were following them, (looking for under cover cops). Now the system has an automatic audit of database use that flags abuse using some weird algorithm. Random checking of plates without a counter transaction for these plates now draw very unwelcome attention...

So the days of doing a 'solid' are pretty much over as big brother has automated spy's...
Old 08-19-2016 | 11:08 AM
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You can report it to the police without going to your insurance company. Police can investigate but without witnesses and in a parking lot... Its easy for the other party to just say they didn't and there's little that can be done.

That being said parking lots have cameras and it doesn't hurt to find which ones are pointing at your car and you can approach the business and ask to see the footage. At the very least if you're met with resistance you can advise them to secure the footage in question and tell the police its waiting for them at the store.

If u decide insurance is the way to go (but some good advice above) then you'll need a police report number anyways.

I came out from shopping and walked to my car which is always parked at the far end of the lot to find a door ding. I sucked it up and paid a dent guy. Cost me $150 and it still makes me mad to this day but oh well.
Old 08-19-2016 | 11:12 AM
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The whole situation sucks.
It happened last week, but the receptionist from next door never came forward until yesterday.
She witnessed it and said both occupants looked at each other and then to see if anyone saw it before driving away.
I had someone hit the corner of my M3 in the same spot a few years ago. As I was standing there he couldn't run. He was a fellow business owner and told me he would pay for it in full.
Well, 2 months later he gives me a cheque for $1,500 after I gave him 3 estimates over $2,500.
I just hate people some times .......
Old 08-19-2016 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zak996
You can report it to the police without going to your insurance company. Police can investigate but without witnesses and in a parking lot... Its easy for the other party to just say they didn't and there's little that can be done.
A police report will still show up on a Carproof report, so it will still diminish the value of the vehicle. Possibly more, because it wouldn't have a dollar amount attached to it, so a potential buyer could (maybe should) assume the worst - theft recovery, drug car, etc.
Old 08-19-2016 | 12:26 PM
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If you go to a body shop and damage is more then 1000 they have to report it. You can also be in trouble for not reporting any damage over 1000. No you don't have to claim it through insurance just need to make a police report.
Old 08-19-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker
FYI:

All entries into CIPIC (or local systems connect to it) are logged and require an incident/occurrence report number. Anyone not entering this info is subject to review by the commander and possible police act charges could occur. All of this is a result of a few bad apples spying on ex-girlfriends/wives and stalking charges. There is no direct check on MTO data or insurance info as it is processed through a central data system that connects to these other data systems. I've been told that commanders can check on data use as part of the PDR process.

Same thing at Service Ontario where access is controlled ever since the 'bikers' got a girlfriend employed in a privately run outlet that was checking plates for the bikers on any car parked near their club house or ones they thought were following them, (looking for under cover cops). Now the system has an automatic audit of database use that flags abuse using some weird algorithm. Random checking of plates without a counter transaction for these plates now draw very unwelcome attention...

So the days of doing a 'solid' are pretty much over as big brother has automated spy's...
everything you are saying may be correct, but in practice, this kind of stuff continues to go on ALL the time. I'll leave it at that.
Old 08-19-2016 | 04:51 PM
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Update
Decided to file a report as people should just not get away with this stuff.
Officer came and was given all the info. He is saying that yes they can be charged with leaving the scene even tho it's private property. This is the only reason he is showing up and filing an occurrence.
I ask him to see if we can still let this go if they will pay for damages. He says he's good with that and will ask the other party.
A couple of hours later this very nice lady shows up at my office saying how sorry she is for hitting my car and will pay for the damages. Please no insurance claim.
Let's see how this pans out .......
Old 08-19-2016 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
If you go to a body shop and damage is more then 1000 they have to report it. You can also be in trouble for not reporting any damage over 1000. No you don't have to claim it through insurance just need to make a police report.
??? Hasn't been my experience. My daughter did some damage to my Mini. Well over $1000 that we paid out of pocket. Was fixed at a BMW approved shop. They never reported it. Car has moved on now. Never on Carfax.
Old 08-19-2016 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
Update
Decided to file a report as people should just not get away with this stuff.
Officer came and was given all the info. He is saying that yes they can be charged with leaving the scene even tho it's private property. This is the only reason he is showing up and filing an occurrence.
I ask him to see if we can still let this go if they will pay for damages. He says he's good with that and will ask the other party.
A couple of hours later this very nice lady shows up at my office saying how sorry she is for hitting my car and will pay for the damages. Please no insurance claim.
Let's see how this pans out .......
Get 2or 3 estimates and ask for cash asap
Old 08-19-2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by docdrs
Get 2or 3 estimates and ask for cash asap
What do you think it's going to cost to fix a bumper with spider cracks?
Old 08-19-2016 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg981
??? Hasn't been my experience. My daughter did some damage to my Mini. Well over $1000 that we paid out of pocket. Was fixed at a BMW approved shop. They never reported it. Car has moved on now. Never on Carfax.
So Ontario is just as bad as Quebec. Point taken.
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
What do you think it's going to cost to fix a bumper with spider cracks?
When I used to run a retail dealership, a plastic bumper fix and repaint would usually run about $5-600, but that's on a Chrysler or Ford, not a Porsche.
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
When I used to run a retail dealership, a plastic bumper fix and repaint would usually run about $5-600, but that's on a Chrysler or Ford, not a Porsche.
As long as you take it to a 'regular' body shop it shouldn't cost any more than a regular car. I had a crack in my rear bumper repaired several (4?) years ago for less than $600 by Colours Collision in KW. They did an awesome job and the bumper still looks like new.
I had multiple quotes ranging from ~$400 to ~$1000 and the highest quote was from a very high-profile (aka expensive) body shop in the area.
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
What do you think it's going to cost to fix a bumper with spider cracks?
400-900 depending on the shop and how your paying for it. Get 3 and ask for the middle priced one . I asked one shop how much and he said 700 but that was site unseen. You might want to consider taking it off and reinstalling it yourself .....
Old 08-20-2016 | 07:05 PM
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Call the cops........



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