Gorgeous yellow '96 C4S...but $80K?
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My take on most valueable by model (room for overlap a couple places due to condition, mileage etc):
1. 993 GT2 EVO (CS > M002)
2. 993 GT2 (CS > M002)
3. 993 RS/CS M003
4. 993 RS M002
5. 993 Turbo S
6. 993 Turbo
7. 993 C2S (MY 98 > MY 97)
8. 993 C4S (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
9. 993 C2 coupe (MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
10. 993 C4 coupe (MY 96 > MY 95)
11. 993 C4 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
12. 993 Targa (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
13. 993 C2 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
Again, just my opinion. And cars can move up or down in ranking due to condition, mileage, colour, options, history among other things. Also, as these cars are now AT LEAST sixteen years old, cars from other markets also come into play. Models available in all markets will be most valueable in their home market which is identifiable by the "C" code (Canada C36 for example) unless being sold in a market where they weren't originally available (RS, GT2).
My $.02.
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I'd say the RS and RS/CS would be BY FAR the most valueable NA car, though they weren't available in North America when new.
My take on most valueable by model (room for overlap a couple places due to condition, mileage etc):
1. 993 GT2 EVO (CS > M002)
2. 993 GT2 (CS > M002)
3. 993 RS/CS M003
4. 993 RS M002
5. 993 Turbo S
6. 993 Turbo
7. 993 C2S (MY 98 > MY 97)
8. 993 C4S (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
9. 993 C2 coupe (MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
10. 993 C4 coupe (MY 96 > MY 95)
11. 993 C4 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
12. 993 Targa (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
13. 993 C2 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
Again, just my opinion. And cars can move up or down in ranking due to condition, mileage, colour, options, history among other things. Also, as these cars are now AT LEAST sixteen years old, cars from other markets also come into play. Models available in all markets will be most valueable in their home market which is identifiable by the "C" code (Canada C36 for example) unless being sold in a market where they weren't originally available (RS, GT2).
My $.02.
My take on most valueable by model (room for overlap a couple places due to condition, mileage etc):
1. 993 GT2 EVO (CS > M002)
2. 993 GT2 (CS > M002)
3. 993 RS/CS M003
4. 993 RS M002
5. 993 Turbo S
6. 993 Turbo
7. 993 C2S (MY 98 > MY 97)
8. 993 C4S (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
9. 993 C2 coupe (MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
10. 993 C4 coupe (MY 96 > MY 95)
11. 993 C4 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
12. 993 Targa (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96)
13. 993 C2 Cabriolet (MY 98 > MY 97 > MY 96 > MY 95)
Again, just my opinion. And cars can move up or down in ranking due to condition, mileage, colour, options, history among other things. Also, as these cars are now AT LEAST sixteen years old, cars from other markets also come into play. Models available in all markets will be most valueable in their home market which is identifiable by the "C" code (Canada C36 for example) unless being sold in a market where they weren't originally available (RS, GT2).
My $.02.
And to the OP, the SY is priced correctly in today's market, factor this being a dealer too.
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I inspected this car with my paint thickness meter for a friend of mine who was interested.
Most panels check out OK, but there is some obvious damage to the roof at the top of the window right at the rubber seal. Pfaff informed us that a brick fell on it and then damaged the hood; not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up. The thickness of the paint on the hood can be considered off-scale and the vehicle info label is missing due to the hood having been replaced according to Pfaff.
The right door has seen an incident as there is over spray and other paint defects as well as not lining up too well at the lower rear-end near the rocker panel. Also not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up.
It has damage history but having looked at the front end, everything I saw looked original...frame rails, front apron, bumper mounts, etc. One or both fenders may have been replaced. I did see the paint scraped off the threads of the bolts attaching the fender as we had the headlights out.
The interior is nice and if you can believe the mileage, its at 53K kms.
But $80K for a car with a long list of stories and countless owners. It could be sold to an uninformed buyer at that price. The used car sales manager said it would be priced at $100K without its history. Well OK, believe what you want. I doubt they paid much for it. I would not pay $55K for it.
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There is a reason why it hasn't sold. It is far from mint and has quite the story.
I inspected this car with my paint thickness meter for a friend of mine who was interested.
Most panels check out OK, but there is some obvious damage to the roof at the top of the window right at the rubber seal. Pfaff informed us that a brick fell on it and then damaged the hood; not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up. The thickness of the paint on the hood can be considered off-scale and the vehicle info label is missing due to the hood having been replaced according to Pfaff.
The right door has seen an incident as there is over spray and other paint defects as well as not lining up too well at the lower rear-end near the rocker panel. Also not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up.
It has damage history but having looked at the front end, everything I saw looked original...frame rails, front apron, bumper mounts, etc. One or both fenders may have been replaced. I did see the paint scraped off the threads of the bolts attaching the fender as we had the headlights out.
The interior is nice and if you can believe the mileage, its at 53K kms.
But $80K for a car with a long list of stories and countless owners. It could be sold to an uninformed buyer at that price. The used car sales manager said it would be priced at $100K without its history. Well OK, believe what you want. I doubt they paid much for it. I would not pay $55K for it.
I inspected this car with my paint thickness meter for a friend of mine who was interested.
Most panels check out OK, but there is some obvious damage to the roof at the top of the window right at the rubber seal. Pfaff informed us that a brick fell on it and then damaged the hood; not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up. The thickness of the paint on the hood can be considered off-scale and the vehicle info label is missing due to the hood having been replaced according to Pfaff.
The right door has seen an incident as there is over spray and other paint defects as well as not lining up too well at the lower rear-end near the rocker panel. Also not disclosed by Pfaff till I brought it up.
It has damage history but having looked at the front end, everything I saw looked original...frame rails, front apron, bumper mounts, etc. One or both fenders may have been replaced. I did see the paint scraped off the threads of the bolts attaching the fender as we had the headlights out.
The interior is nice and if you can believe the mileage, its at 53K kms.
But $80K for a car with a long list of stories and countless owners. It could be sold to an uninformed buyer at that price. The used car sales manager said it would be priced at $100K without its history. Well OK, believe what you want. I doubt they paid much for it. I would not pay $55K for it.
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What I can't believe is the non-disclosure from what many consider a leading Porsche dealership. We have to stop applauding businesses...remember that hack job on the tunnel cover by a shop so many praised? There is no way they did not know about the roof and door damage unless they are clueless about cars as a used vehicle dealer.
At the right price it would still have to be a keeper because selling one with this background would be tough. I'd professionally repaint the roof windshield-out and the passenger door. Some sucker will buy it.
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I was close to buying it through a stellar sales person there named Jay-R. We could not put a deal together. If it's not on the lot they said that they were putting it away in storage until spring. Doug
#30
Drifting
Smart move on their part given Spring fever reality.