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Old 05-30-2014, 08:40 AM
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Glad to hear it, Trent!
Old 05-30-2014, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Yes the entire program needs to be scrapped but I think you are missing my point. With the OBD2 eTest all you need is a cheap scanner ($100) and you'll kmow if it will pass or not. The tailpipe test didn't have a cheap scanner for the owner to buy and it was a crapshoot going in.
I agree that it is easier for the owner to know .. before going in , but isnt really a concern for the average consumer as they arent going to buy a scanner anyway .. the new system ds just easier if you are a car flipper..

however ... here is why the new system is a problem ..
My Audi passes with flying colours ... not even 10% the maximum .. which is the INTENT of the testing, get the poluters off the road ..

The rear O2 sensor goes bad . the function of the rear o2 sensor is to check if the cat is working .. so the cat isnt bad so the emmisions are excellent .. but the device whoes job it is to check the CAt goes bad .. creates a code . cant pass . $425 dollars installed by the dealer .. even though the actual emmisions on the car are very good..
I would bet you see far more sensors go bad than cats for example , which means consumers are spending a lot of money on cars that arent poluting. The sniff test is the last best test to see if you are poluting. Anything else is just a money maker for the repair shops.
Old 08-08-2014, 04:02 PM
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Default cat bypass pass a drive clean test?

I'm looking at a car primarily for track use. A pain to swap the cat in and out to pass the test. Is there anyone with experience passing the driveclean with a 964 without a cat converter? As I said, the car doesn't do a lot of miles.
Old 08-08-2014, 11:07 PM
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A well running 928 will pass without the cats so maybe a 964 would too. Only one way to find out. Take it in and have it tested before you buy it. Only cost $35.
Old 12-22-2014, 06:57 AM
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Reviving this thread to ask you guys a quick question. Where do you recommend going in the GTA to get a Drive Clean test done? I'm looking for a shop that knows P-cars, and will be careful enough not to remove the front bumper lip for me.

North is preferred (Richmond Hill/Newmarket), but no problem traveling for the right place.
Old 12-22-2014, 08:58 AM
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They don't use the dynos anymore. So no need to worry about the bumper beeing ripped off by it.
Old 12-22-2014, 11:04 PM
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I last had mine done at Engineered Automotive, Duffrin 407 area
Old 12-22-2014, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
They don't use the dynos anymore. So no need to worry about the bumper beeing ripped off by it.
Yeah, I was wondering how the hell they could wipe out a splitter by bending down under dash to plug into the OB2 but I've seen some funny stuff go on in garages so there is always the odd 'Kramer' type here and there I guess.
Old 12-23-2014, 12:08 AM
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What do they do for pre 95 cars ?
Two stage idle ?
Old 12-23-2014, 12:31 AM
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^ correct, my 993 was tested via this method back in October.
Old 12-23-2014, 12:43 AM
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1997 MY and older is sniffer on flat-ground, 2 speed 'idle',... 1998MY and newer is OBD2 test
Old 12-23-2014, 09:44 AM
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^^^^ Yup and the emission limits are very generous too.
Old 12-23-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EADan
Come to Engineered Automotive...we'll fit you in.
I gladly would have, but I'm downtown and was in a rush to wrap this up this morning. I've got a temp sticker on the car and it expires on the 28th.

Well, turns out the car came back not ready anyway. It's got a new DME and might need some more time to learn. No codes of any kind, just not ready on Catalyst, Evap System and Secondary Air.

This may have to wait until the new year at this point. If so, you'll be seeing me!
Old 12-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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Laird, south of Eglinton.

http://www.amlautoservice.com/site/driveclean.asp

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Old 12-24-2014, 01:41 AM
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and no NOx readings at all, kinda wonder why we even test -'97 cars at all.....

Originally Posted by Imo000
^^^^ Yup and the emission limits are very generous too.


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