My lord just caught this on the 991 board. What a nightmare! PCNA do the right thing here and stop with the threats, give this man his money back. IMHO its time to get the lawyers involved! 1st generation issues?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eXUn...ature=youtu.be

 

Brutal....surprised they haven't done the right thing and replaced the car or refunded his money. Doesn't the US have no lemon law? Or maybe that's a particular state I am thinking of....or maybe it's not yet a lemon.

Maybe they are busy with GT3 comp packages

This has taken away a small bit of my perception of the Porsche brand.

 

feel terrible for the guy. complete nightmare of an experience for a 'dreamcar'.

 

Looks like all the electrical problems stem from pinched or chaffed wire harnesses.
No way the dealer would have replaced the chaffed wires he showed. They would have just taped them up.
The cars main wire harness is the first thing in so it's the last thing out which means gutting the car down to the bare chassis.
No question it's still shorting to ground when he hits a bump.
Porsche needs to step up but that's highly unlikely.
He should just let it short out and burn to the ground. Problem solved other than the increase in insurance premiums afterwards.

I knew a guy who had the same problem with a Vette back in the 90's.
His car went back & forth to the US for "diagnosis"for over a year. They never found the problem, never offered and compensation and he sold it for a loss. And he's never bought a GM since.

 

Was this the guy who had a radar detector hard wired by an Indi ?

 

yikes.

 

Yes it was. He had a radar detector and camera hardwired in. Nick seems to be a really nice guy and he made some nice videos. Having said that, I think playing with the electrical system of a modern Porsche is like playing with fire. If Porsche can show it was an aftermarket botch job then he is SOL. Would you be happy if your pilot added a g force meter aftermarket? No you wouldn't. The biggest problems I have ever had with my 911's is aftermarket botch jobs. Some of these botch jobs were at well known GTA tuners. I think wheels and exhausts are fairly safe. Electrical? You have to be out of your mind. I know some of you have done mods with no problems. You gambled and won. Maybe Nick gambled and lost.

 

I don't think a radar install causes flooding - do you? But water can cause all sorts of issues. Its possible that he had water in there long before he just noticed the water on the carpet.

I agree with your opinion on the aftermarket idea and I personally would wait until a warranty period is over and *then* decide if I take the risk of someone wandering around in a complicated buss system or not. But I wouldn't categorically say (and I don't know if he did or not) that an aftermarket install did all this.

 

I didn't say it did cause the problem. I am suggesting it MIGHT be the problem. I am not a mechanical/electrical engineer; nor have I examined the car. All I am saying is that IF Porsche finds the fault is an aftermarket botch job then it's not their fault and they don't have to honor anything. I am sure Porsche will closely examine the car....like the 2 GT3's that burned. If you read the entire post there is a suggestion that his dealership has some major issues. I can tell you I wouldn't do it but that's just me. To come to a proper judgement you have to hear both sides. At this point we are only hearing 1 side.

 

I think he's just a picky '*******'. BTW does Porsche offer footwell irrigation as an option on the 991?

 

Ya, based on what I've read about Porsche NA support (not experienced it first hand, so I can't speak from personal experience), whether the aftermarket install caused the issues or not, I'm pretty sure Porsche can/will conclude that that's what has caused the issues, water damage aside). Gotta feel for the guy... nice car worth nothin' but a whole lot of grief!

 

I read the entire thread. And his other treads via the search function... Turns out the 'install' was done by the dealer and PCNA is fine with what the dealer did and are not blaming this install in any way. Dealer or no dealer issue - bad or not - they are certified by Porsche to sell and service cars and have properly trained staff, (not saying the screwed up or not) The name on the building is P O R S C H E.

 

Do it like in the Top Gear Africa special......they used an elephant gun to drain the floor.

 

Well then I take back my post... LOL. If it was Porsche approved, then who knows.

 

If the failures were due to "botched" work, then Porsche would have said so and the liability would have shifted to the installer/retailer and their insurance.
Why hasn't Porsche suggested this? Because I assume that's not the problem.
A back up camera (other than power & ground) would connect via a module like Nav-TV.
A radar detector permanently wired, again would be power & ground. It's not integrated to car systems.

None of this has anything to do with a chaffed smoking wire harness in the doors.
There's no need to access the doors for the install of either of these products.
Nor does it have anything to do with a whistling leaking window which is probably where the water is from.