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Old 10-31-2013, 11:34 PM
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Default Impact wrench or driver?

Anyone use either of these for wheel removal? I have usually 6 cars (family of course) that i swaps winters/summers and was thinking these may come in handy

I think the driver would be of more use on a day to day basis than the wrench but not sure it has the same power

This all started because i have a Makita cordless saw with a battery but no charger (long story). Purchasing a charger by itself is almost as expensive as buying a tool that comes with one. Hence the cordless impact wrench vs driver debate

Any thoughts/experiences?
Old 11-01-2013, 12:06 AM
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The makita 1/2" cordless Wrench got really good reviews in either car and driver or family handyman a couple years back. I do not have it but the nut busting torque in reverse was over 500 ftlbs in reverse from what I remember.

I have the makita family of tools from a basement reno I did back in 2008 and the batteries are running strong still. I don't have their impact Wrench, but I do have 2 of their km pact drivers for woodworking and rink building. 300+ 3" screws over 4 hrs. On a charge. I got a 2nd one so my volunteer helper can use the one at the same time.

I use air in the garage for lug bolts and axle nuts with a Stanley 1/2" impact that I am very happy with. If I didn't already have the Stanley already, I would consider the makita. Tool only, I think it's over $150
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I have a 12v DeWalt impact drive, works great for spinning the lugs off and snuging them on, however I also use a breaker bar to loosen the bolts and a torque wrench to tighten them.
Old 11-01-2013, 02:19 AM
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won't regret it...best tools out there, if you need someone to purchase from let me know...
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500lb/ft is a $hitload of force are you sure iy can deliver that much and its not just a sales pitch? 500 should twist the impact gun right out of your hand.
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Rob is that the driver or wrench? Are u selling it?

I would prefer to purchase the driver as i have more uses for it and frankly its quite a bit cheaper. I assume there is a 1/4 adapter to change it to a 1/2 wrench. Anyone know if it has sufficient torque to get the lugs off without a breaker?

Thanks
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I just ordered a Milwaukee 2662-22 18V 1/2 drive cordless impact driver on Amazon.ca,friend of mine had one at the track this Summer and that thing will twist your wrist off ... no need for a breaker bar to remove 100ft/lb lug nuts.

They're not cheap but they come with a 5 year warranty,something Dewalt or Makita will never provide !

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Originally Posted by vern1
Any thoughts/experiences?
To remove the lug nuts/bolts...sure, but I'd never use any type of impact/driver to install them, not even with a torque stick. No thanks!
Old 11-01-2013, 09:29 AM
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I have a corded Mastercraft impact driver from Canadian Tire. It goes for about $150 but frequently goes on sale for $50. I prefer corded because my batteries always seem to be dead when I need them and hate having to wait to charge them up. I've stopped firing up the compressor because it's easier to get out this impact driver instead.
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
I'd never use any type of impact/driver to install them, not even with a torque stick. No thanks!
Why?
Old 11-01-2013, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
Why?
Choice and I have a calibrated torque wrench.

Torque sticks exist for speed and shops. I haven't seen any calibration specs with any of them. How close are they?
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I use a Bosch 18v cordless impact driver. Works great!

I do use it to put the nuts on and then use a torque wrench to finish. No problems.

IXLR8 concerns are probably that an impact driver can put the nuts on really tight which make removing them at the side of the road in an emergency difficult. Also, you have to be careful not to scratch the wheels. You can get rubber coated driver bits to prevent this from happening.
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Originally Posted by alexl911
IXLR8 concerns are probably that an impact driver can put the nuts on really tight which make removing them at the side of the road in an emergency difficult.
If they are that tight, then they have been grossly over-torqued. At 96 lbf.ft. along with the Porsche recommended anti-seize paste, mine come off with light pressure on my 18 inch flex handle.

Originally Posted by alexl911
IAlso, you have to be careful not to scratch the wheels. You can get rubber coated driver bits to prevent this from happening.
More of my concern. Tip: put a layer of heat shrink on your socket.
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More of my concern. Tip: put a layer of heat shrink on your socket.
great idea..I've been wrapping with electrical tape color coded to the lugs. 4runner summer, 4runner snows, lexus summers, etc....
Old 11-01-2013, 10:33 AM
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I use an impact wrench on the truck set and then torque wrench to finish
On the car, any electric drill or impact screwdriver will work.
Again though, finish up with the torque wrench

Theres always things like Neiko Nylon sockets too..

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