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Old 03-26-2012, 11:08 AM
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If you really want extra octane, buy a bottle of it at Canadian tire. This topic has been well covered here, and the consensus is always shell 91.
Old 03-26-2012, 11:33 AM
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Another Shell V power user.
Old 03-26-2012, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronan
Another Shell V power user.
same
Old 03-26-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker
If you read the manual you'll notice the 'warning' concerning the use of ethanol in Porsche's...

SHELL super (VPower) is the only gas sold in Ontario that guarantees no ethanol in it.
And confirmed in an e-mail to me from Shell...

Thank you for your email. Shell V-Power Premium gasoline (91 octane) is free of ethanol. Other Shell grades gasoline contain ethanol at the following concentrations: Up to 5% ethanol in Shell Silver mid-grade gasoline (89 octane), and up to 10% ethanol in Shell Bronze regular grade gasoline (87 octane).

Thank you for choosing Shell.

Kind regards,

Jose Meilo

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Not that many of us would need it, but its unfortunate that our Shell V-Power isn't the same as the Shell V-Power (100, about 95 in our numbers) available in Europe.
Old 03-26-2012, 02:17 PM
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My understanding was that 1999 and older should not use Ethanol.

All 1999 and newer Porsche should run as high as possible octane pump gas regardless of Ethanol or not.

Turbos are especially sensitive to lower octane.

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Old 03-26-2012, 08:45 PM
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Vpower, but it sure is a pain to find sometimes
Old 03-26-2012, 09:14 PM
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What? I don't know why I'm so, oh, I don't know, distracted? Now what were you saying again?
Old 03-26-2012, 09:28 PM
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:57 PM
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looks like Shell V power is winning ! thanks for all the input.
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I thought I was doing the best for my car using ultra 94 and not the Shell 91.

Does the octane level make a difference or better to watch out for ethanol.
Old 03-27-2012, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker
If you read the manual you'll notice the 'warning' concerning the use of ethanol in Porsche's...



SHELL super (VPower) is the only gas sold in Ontario that guarantees no ethanol in it.
Um, not exactly.

Husky sites (most of them formerly Sunoco and P-Can locations recently purchased and rebranded) in the GTA and S.Ontario all offer a 91 octane product with absolutely no ethanol.
This is true of B.C. too (though not the Island) and select sites in Alberta (those without blender pumps).
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Originally Posted by dc88
I thought I was doing the best for my car using ultra 94 and not the Shell 91.

Does the octane level make a difference or better to watch out for ethanol.
well your Ignition System just has to work harder to burn 94 which is not needed compare to 91...

Its like being on top is harder work, than just making like a seal and laying at the bottom
Old 03-27-2012, 12:28 PM
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The exception are cars that have been tuned that can take advantage of the higher octane. If you've done that, higher octane, even with ethanol, may be warranted.
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Originally Posted by Zookie
well your Ignition System just has to work harder to burn 94 which is not needed compare to 91...
Umm, the ignition system doesn't "work hard". Higher octane burns more slowly and in a more controlled fashion. The manufacturer sets the ignition timing for the engine based on the fuel they designed it for. On newer cars, they all have knock sensors, so if the octane is too low and there is a knock event, the computer retards the timing enough to make the knock go away. This lowers your horsepower output.

On a non-modified Porsche engine, use the recommended octane, no more no less. Lower then recommended octane will cause the computer to retard the timing and decrease performance. Higher then recommended octane burns slower so it also reduces performance, plus it costs more per L.

Ethanol content? It reduces overall MPG/HP a bit as ethanol has less stored energy then the equivalent amount of gasoline and it absorbs water. Most fuel systems (like anything made in the last 35 years) can handle it and the fuel system is completely sealed from the outside air so moisture absorption is a minimum. One of the 928 guys took all the fuel components and soaked them in E85 for months and nothing happened to them, so 5-10% ethanol isn't going to ruin your car even if it is older. Ontario has a law that all gasoline manufacturers have to average 5% ethanol content. Shell gets around this by putting 10% in their regular at 5% in their midgrade and 0% in their premium, so overall they meet the 5%.
Old 03-28-2012, 12:42 AM
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http://www.ehow.com/info_12162213_et...ar-engine.html

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...514_058678.htm

http://www.jsonline.com/business/new...132968333.html

http://www.fuel-testers.com/list_e10_engine_damage.html

Hey, it's your car and your $$$$.

Shell 91 is all I use in the P-car. Do a search in Canada on Rennlist. This has been hashed out over the years. A few folks here kept burning out their cats till they moved over to shell 91.


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