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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Well, continuing the saga of my flat (as per my post yesterday). It turns out the the nail in my tire is in the tread but about 1-1.5" in from the side. Given this am I being told by DFC that they cannot plug/patch the tire. If anyone has a perspective on this I would appreciate it. The story only gets worse from here...

It seems my almost new tires on my car are Michelin PS N1 tires (305/30/19) and there are apparently none of these available that DFC can get their hands on. The recommendation therefore is that I need to replace both tires on the back with PS N2 tires which are apparently available. This is going to cost me $1485 + tax at DFC. Seems like a lot for driving over one screw but I am not sure what else I can do.

Kurt has been helpful and, of course, offered to put on the one tire if I can find it (perhaps from the US?). Not sure where to from here. I will begin calling around but I thought that you guys with more Porsche ownership time (I am now up to 12 days) would be able to point me in the right direction or provide me with some options to explore.

Any insights would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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I usually buy from tire rack who will supply N rated tires. Prices quoted are landed, tax paid. I have also used Active Green + Ross on Adelaide St who have been good.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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1 inch from the side wall for a street tire should be no problem. go pick up the wheel and tire and take it to simply tire or steel case tire and bring it back to be mounted should cost $25. I would not accept DFC's crap about having to sell you new tires.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Too close to the sidewall is indeed a situation where it cannot be patched, I'm just not sure how close is deemed too close. I would agree that if Tire Rack has one, get it from there. Have it shipped directly to DFC and you're good to go.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Never do you tires at a dealer unless you have extra doe to get rid of. Even getting a really bad deal at any other tire shop it would only cost 550 a tire.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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dude call Allen at SimplyTire.com tell him you are from here, mention some names from here... we will take care of you...
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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try calling Allan Ahi @ Simply Tire (Dufferin + Finch) at 416 916 9233
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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As mentioned by others in your other thread, consider patching the tire to see if it works first. If possible, I'd suggest using the the more capable " T " patch, where the round rubber head covers the repair on the inside. The only problem would be if the hole is too close to the sidewall, and interferes with the round head. If not enough room for the " T " patch, then consider a conventional plug. It might not be pretty, but it can and does work. I repaired a tire at the track, where the nail was near the edge of the tread, and the tire held air until we wore out the tread. I admit, needed to be more diligent checking PSI after the plug, but after the first day or 2 we knew it hold.

If the car is only street driven, a patch/plug can work just fine. Relatively cheap to try. Keep a guage in the car and check PSI often. You'll know pretty quickly if its working or not. And if still leaking, likely to be a slow leak. With a 12V compressor handy, you won't be stranded. If it still leaks, then pursue tire replacement.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HC22
Well, continuing the saga of my flat (as per my post yesterday). It turns out the the nail in my tire is in the tread but about 1-1.5" in from the side. Given this am I being told by DFC that they cannot plug/patch the tire. If anyone has a perspective on this I would appreciate it. The story only gets worse from here...

It seems my almost new tires on my car are Michelin PS N1 tires (305/30/19) and there are apparently none of these available that DFC can get their hands on. The recommendation therefore is that I need to replace both tires on the back with PS N2 tires which are apparently available. This is going to cost me $1485 + tax at DFC. Seems like a lot for driving over one screw but I am not sure what else I can do.

Kurt has been helpful and, of course, offered to put on the one tire if I can find it (perhaps from the US?). Not sure where to from here. I will begin calling around but I thought that you guys with more Porsche ownership time (I am now up to 12 days) would be able to point me in the right direction or provide me with some options to explore.

Any insights would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers.
I was told previously by a mechanic that as long as it's not right at the edge, it's patchable. The real limitation is the type of "patch" that is used. If you used the rubber strips type of patch, then I guess you can go right up against the tire wall. However, if you were to use the ones with a circular patch to patch from the inside, then I suppose you can only patch up to about an inch from the tire wall as I think those patches typically have a 1.5"-2" circumference.

In terms of getting N-Spec matched tires, I suppose technically you also need to make sure the fronts and back are n-spec matched as well (n1 all round). Now if you don't plan on tracking the car, and that's why you are patching to begin with, then maybe not having n-spec matched front/rear and side to side is not critical. Someone else can comment. I know the previous owner of my car went through the exact same situation as you with DFC and ended up replacing both rear as they were unable to find a matching one. Or so they told him at the time.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Canadian Tire sells a plug kit for $10 and its enough for 4 occasions. I've used these myself and they work great. Even fixed one while it was on the car, just make sure to follow the instructions.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Everyone,

Thanks very much for the quick and helpful responses. I spoke to Allan at Simply Tire and he was great. Indeed, the N1 tires on my car have been discontinued and replaced with the N2 version. At minimum, I would need to replace the back two tires, best scenario would be replace all 4 so they are all N1. Given this and the fact the nail is 1" in from the sidewall, Allan (who was INCREDIBLY helpful by the way) is convinced that the tire can be plugged with no issue, I am going to give fixing the tire a go. Hopefully this works out and saves be $1500 that I can spend on more fun toys for the car than tires.

As a new owner, this forum is incredible valuable. I will certainly be signing up for full membership and finally posting some pics of the car when I eventually have it at home for more than a day.

Cheers.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Use a plug kit , as long as you have not driven on the tire while it was flat , you should be fine . Pepboys any autoparts store.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Go to green and Ross. A speed patch is what you are looking for. They will remove the tire from the rim and patch it from the inside out. About$80.

This is the only proper way to fix it.

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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Sounds like you are good to go .. just remember to spring some of that 1500 saved to get a Rennlist membership and a shirt .... available soon .. and you just learned your first valuable lesson about Porsche ownership .. if in isn't under warranty stay as far away from the dealer as you can.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedyellow993
Go to green and Ross. A speed patch is what you are looking for. They will remove the tire from the rim and patch it from the inside out. About$80.

This is the only proper way to fix it.

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Steelcase charged me $20 last year to do this.
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