Just imported an '05 Boxster S from the US to Canada AND full trip report!
08-22-2007, 08:17 PM
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Just imported an '05 Boxster S from the US to Canada AND full trip report!
I'm new to this forum, and thought I would share my experiences of purchasing and importing a gently used 2005 Boxster S from the United States into Canada. I gleaned a LOT of information on the car from the forum, and I feel that by describing my experience and trip I can "give something back" to all of you. It's a long trip report, but I hope you like it!
A couple of weeks ago I decided that the combination of the high dollar and somewhat stubborn resale market here in Canada presented an opportunity to import a Porsche into this country.
The process isn't too difficult, although it does seem "daunting" at first.
My first step was to check values on the porsche.com used-car website with comparable values in Canada. I found a low mileage (~9500) 2005 Boxster S in Knoxville at a reasonable price (Harper's Porsche). I contacted the salesman regarding the car, and the dealership was EXCELLENT at getting back to me/sending me information. They took lots of pictures of the car, gave me a detailed description, etc. A fantastic dealership to deal with.
The car was optioned with Bose & Windstop, Auto Climate Control, Painted Wheel Caps, xenon, etc. and had the stock 6 speed manual. From the photos of the car you could tell that it was in fantastic shape. The car came with a Porsche Certified Warranty until November 2011, so I knew that it would be covered mechanically. Plus, given the low mileage, I knew that the car had been barely broken in. To top it off, the dealership completed the first service on the car, so it was ready to be driven!
The car was listed for $45,900 and we settled on a purchase price of $41,800 for the car, inclusive of all extras, after a very short negotiation (I thought that it was an outstaning deal, and it was easy and quick to get there). The same exact car, with similar milage and options, has been priced here at Pfaff for $69k, plus 14% tax, so I knew I was getting a good deal.
I decided to purchase the car, and wired the purchase price funds to the dealership. Yes, this was a bit of a leap of faith seeing as how I hadn't seen the car, but buying from a Porsche dealership gave me comfort that they would stand behind the car.
I booked a flight down to Knoxville with my wife as we intended to make it a "road trip" and drive the car back to Toronto.
The dealership sent me a recall clearance letter, copies of the title, and bills of sale for my records before I came down. I took the title and faxed it to the Lewiston Bridge US CBP facility (WARNING--The fax number on their phone line is INCORRECT! The correct fax is 716-282-1400) as they require the title faxed to them 72 hours prior to import. I then called the CBP to verify reciept of the fax, which they acknowledged.
All that was left to do was fly to Knoxville and pick up the car. We flew down on US Airways to Knoxville (via Charlotte) and our salesman (Joey Collins) from Harper's Porsche met us at the airport in a brand new Cayenne Turbo. A very nice automobile! He took us to the dealership, and once I saw the car I knew I had made the right choice. It was EXACTLY as advertised, with a few small stone chips (I am going to fill them and then get a Clear Guard for the hood and fenders!) but otherwise it was in immaculate condition. The seats were brand new--no leather stress, the interior was in showroom condition, and the rims were clean with no scratches or gouges. The tires have another year on them, which is the only drawback of buying used.
The salesman had me sign some paperwork and then after introducing me to the owner of the dealership (who was following my purchase and wanted me to be happy) gave me a very thorough walk through on the car and its features. He also gave me a front license plate mount in case I needed it (which I do) and pointed out that he affixed a 30 day temporary plate to the car. We loaded our bags into the car, said good bye to Joey and pulled away and onto the Interstate.
We decided to drive back home as it was cheap to fly to Knoxville, and what better way to get to know the car than driving it home? We planned a route through Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and then to Pittsburgh PA where we stayed in a hotel for the night. The car was awesome--even during a MASSIVE rainstorm in the mountains in W.Va, it handled beautifully, and executed passes and top down motoring with precision. What a fantastic car. I think i grinned for the entire 10 hour drive to Pittsburgh. The next day we drove through the Alleghany mountains to Erie, and then east on the I90 to Buffalo, and onward to Lewiston--that part of the trip took 4 hours, with a stop to fill up.
Speaking of fill ups, this car gets fantastic mileage! We averaged about 650 km/ 400 mi per tank, and we were driving on and off with the top up, at an average speed of 120 km/75 mi per hour. I was very impressed.
Anyway, we got to Lewiston, and I pulled off to the left and parked at the vehicle export warehouse (after I asked a friendly CBP officer where the warehouse was!). I walked in, and the officer on duty asked to see my title. She asked me where the car was parked, to which I replied "way down at the end of the parking lot". She grabbed her file, took out the fax I sent her, flipped a couple pages, and then stamped my car's title for export. The whole process took 2 minutes.
I then proceeded across the border where the Canadian border guard asked me about the car (how much I paid, when I bought it, when I left Canada). He gave me a yellow paper with those details written on them, and directed me to the left to the customs cashier area.
I walked into the Customs area with my paperwork, and I was warmly greeted by two agents who were quite cordial and professional. I explained that I was importing a 2005 Porsche Boxster S into the country, handed over the freshly stamped title and my bill of sale, and proceeded to fill out the RIV Form 1. After a couple questions (confirm my purchase price, country of manufacture) I was given a receipt which I took to the cashier and paid both GST (6%) and Duty (6.1%) on the CAD equivalent purchase price. I also paid the RIV fee ($219) and AC Excise tax ($100). All amounts were paid on VISA.
After that, it was home free, and onto the 405/QEW and then 407 to get home.
We passed 7 speed traps on the way from Knoxville, but I had resisted the urge (mostly ) to speed so we were clear.
That's my report so far. I have sent in my recall clearance letter (got one from the dealership AND PCNA, and of course, PCNA says the entire instrument cluster needs to be replaced, which isn't true) and will be calling the RIV to get my Form 2 right away. I've made an appointment with DFC to have the DRLs installed/activated (total cost will be $70 for labour), and then will take the car to Canadian Tire for it's Importation and safety inspection, and hopefully, if that goes well, I will have the car registered here in Ontario by the end of next week.
The only mod required on the car (because the Speedo/Odo can be switched to km/h using the trip computer) is the daytime running light mod, so it should be fairly simple to get the car to meet Canadian standards.
And that's it! I love driving this car--it really drives well, and is a fantastic cruising machine. I hope to take it to the track one day soon to really see what it can do!
A couple of weeks ago I decided that the combination of the high dollar and somewhat stubborn resale market here in Canada presented an opportunity to import a Porsche into this country.
The process isn't too difficult, although it does seem "daunting" at first.
My first step was to check values on the porsche.com used-car website with comparable values in Canada. I found a low mileage (~9500) 2005 Boxster S in Knoxville at a reasonable price (Harper's Porsche). I contacted the salesman regarding the car, and the dealership was EXCELLENT at getting back to me/sending me information. They took lots of pictures of the car, gave me a detailed description, etc. A fantastic dealership to deal with.
The car was optioned with Bose & Windstop, Auto Climate Control, Painted Wheel Caps, xenon, etc. and had the stock 6 speed manual. From the photos of the car you could tell that it was in fantastic shape. The car came with a Porsche Certified Warranty until November 2011, so I knew that it would be covered mechanically. Plus, given the low mileage, I knew that the car had been barely broken in. To top it off, the dealership completed the first service on the car, so it was ready to be driven!
The car was listed for $45,900 and we settled on a purchase price of $41,800 for the car, inclusive of all extras, after a very short negotiation (I thought that it was an outstaning deal, and it was easy and quick to get there). The same exact car, with similar milage and options, has been priced here at Pfaff for $69k, plus 14% tax, so I knew I was getting a good deal.
I decided to purchase the car, and wired the purchase price funds to the dealership. Yes, this was a bit of a leap of faith seeing as how I hadn't seen the car, but buying from a Porsche dealership gave me comfort that they would stand behind the car.
I booked a flight down to Knoxville with my wife as we intended to make it a "road trip" and drive the car back to Toronto.
The dealership sent me a recall clearance letter, copies of the title, and bills of sale for my records before I came down. I took the title and faxed it to the Lewiston Bridge US CBP facility (WARNING--The fax number on their phone line is INCORRECT! The correct fax is 716-282-1400) as they require the title faxed to them 72 hours prior to import. I then called the CBP to verify reciept of the fax, which they acknowledged.
All that was left to do was fly to Knoxville and pick up the car. We flew down on US Airways to Knoxville (via Charlotte) and our salesman (Joey Collins) from Harper's Porsche met us at the airport in a brand new Cayenne Turbo. A very nice automobile! He took us to the dealership, and once I saw the car I knew I had made the right choice. It was EXACTLY as advertised, with a few small stone chips (I am going to fill them and then get a Clear Guard for the hood and fenders!) but otherwise it was in immaculate condition. The seats were brand new--no leather stress, the interior was in showroom condition, and the rims were clean with no scratches or gouges. The tires have another year on them, which is the only drawback of buying used.
The salesman had me sign some paperwork and then after introducing me to the owner of the dealership (who was following my purchase and wanted me to be happy) gave me a very thorough walk through on the car and its features. He also gave me a front license plate mount in case I needed it (which I do) and pointed out that he affixed a 30 day temporary plate to the car. We loaded our bags into the car, said good bye to Joey and pulled away and onto the Interstate.
We decided to drive back home as it was cheap to fly to Knoxville, and what better way to get to know the car than driving it home? We planned a route through Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and then to Pittsburgh PA where we stayed in a hotel for the night. The car was awesome--even during a MASSIVE rainstorm in the mountains in W.Va, it handled beautifully, and executed passes and top down motoring with precision. What a fantastic car. I think i grinned for the entire 10 hour drive to Pittsburgh. The next day we drove through the Alleghany mountains to Erie, and then east on the I90 to Buffalo, and onward to Lewiston--that part of the trip took 4 hours, with a stop to fill up.
Speaking of fill ups, this car gets fantastic mileage! We averaged about 650 km/ 400 mi per tank, and we were driving on and off with the top up, at an average speed of 120 km/75 mi per hour. I was very impressed.
Anyway, we got to Lewiston, and I pulled off to the left and parked at the vehicle export warehouse (after I asked a friendly CBP officer where the warehouse was!). I walked in, and the officer on duty asked to see my title. She asked me where the car was parked, to which I replied "way down at the end of the parking lot". She grabbed her file, took out the fax I sent her, flipped a couple pages, and then stamped my car's title for export. The whole process took 2 minutes.
I then proceeded across the border where the Canadian border guard asked me about the car (how much I paid, when I bought it, when I left Canada). He gave me a yellow paper with those details written on them, and directed me to the left to the customs cashier area.
I walked into the Customs area with my paperwork, and I was warmly greeted by two agents who were quite cordial and professional. I explained that I was importing a 2005 Porsche Boxster S into the country, handed over the freshly stamped title and my bill of sale, and proceeded to fill out the RIV Form 1. After a couple questions (confirm my purchase price, country of manufacture) I was given a receipt which I took to the cashier and paid both GST (6%) and Duty (6.1%) on the CAD equivalent purchase price. I also paid the RIV fee ($219) and AC Excise tax ($100). All amounts were paid on VISA.
After that, it was home free, and onto the 405/QEW and then 407 to get home.
We passed 7 speed traps on the way from Knoxville, but I had resisted the urge (mostly ) to speed so we were clear.
That's my report so far. I have sent in my recall clearance letter (got one from the dealership AND PCNA, and of course, PCNA says the entire instrument cluster needs to be replaced, which isn't true) and will be calling the RIV to get my Form 2 right away. I've made an appointment with DFC to have the DRLs installed/activated (total cost will be $70 for labour), and then will take the car to Canadian Tire for it's Importation and safety inspection, and hopefully, if that goes well, I will have the car registered here in Ontario by the end of next week.
The only mod required on the car (because the Speedo/Odo can be switched to km/h using the trip computer) is the daytime running light mod, so it should be fairly simple to get the car to meet Canadian standards.
And that's it! I love driving this car--it really drives well, and is a fantastic cruising machine. I hope to take it to the track one day soon to really see what it can do!
08-22-2007, 08:41 PM
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Be careful........Porsche dealers charge around $650 to do DRL's on a 996 (I know you have a Boxster).......they sell you a BS module......and overcharge on everything.
You can get DRL's wired up easily for under $200......unless on the 2005 Boxster they can do it with the hand held Porsche computer.........in which case you are OK. On the 997 and Cayenne you can do it thru the PCM system in 30 seconds yourself....woohoo !!
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You can get DRL's wired up easily for under $200......unless on the 2005 Boxster they can do it with the hand held Porsche computer.........in which case you are OK. On the 997 and Cayenne you can do it thru the PCM system in 30 seconds yourself....woohoo !!
Welcome to Rennlist !!!
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08-22-2007, 09:55 PM
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good points all around.
The tech at DFC I talked to told me that on a 987 it is a simple process--hook the car up to the computer and that's it. I know other shops can do it as well.
The link on how to do the work yourselfhttp://www.whiteson.org/boxster/mods/drl/ only seems to work on 986 (pre 2005) Boxsters, as the fuse layout is different. I was going to go this way, but after looking at the fuse panel, I realize that it would be tough to do.
The tech also told me that i'd need new Airbag labels (french/english) to pass the certification, and he was going to give them to me for a nominal charge. All in all, he seemed like a straight up individual who probably could have angled for more $, but is happy to steal a service customer away from Pfaff!
I'm SO happy with the car--it's a wonderful machine and a real blast to drive. And these forums are outstanding--lots of excellent material to read here!
Thanks for the welcome....i'll be here frequently from now on!
The tech at DFC I talked to told me that on a 987 it is a simple process--hook the car up to the computer and that's it. I know other shops can do it as well.
The link on how to do the work yourselfhttp://www.whiteson.org/boxster/mods/drl/ only seems to work on 986 (pre 2005) Boxsters, as the fuse layout is different. I was going to go this way, but after looking at the fuse panel, I realize that it would be tough to do.
The tech also told me that i'd need new Airbag labels (french/english) to pass the certification, and he was going to give them to me for a nominal charge. All in all, he seemed like a straight up individual who probably could have angled for more $, but is happy to steal a service customer away from Pfaff!
I'm SO happy with the car--it's a wonderful machine and a real blast to drive. And these forums are outstanding--lots of excellent material to read here!
Thanks for the welcome....i'll be here frequently from now on!
08-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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good points all around.
The tech at DFC I talked to told me that on a 987 it is a simple process--hook the car up to the computer and that's it. I know other shops can do it as well.
The link on how to do the work yourselfhttp://www.whiteson.org/boxster/mods/drl/ only seems to work on 986 (pre 2005) Boxsters, as the fuse layout is different. I was going to go this way, but after looking at the fuse panel, I realize that it would be tough to do.
The tech also told me that i'd need new Airbag labels (french/english) to pass the certification, and he was going to give them to me for a nominal charge. All in all, he seemed like a straight up individual who probably could have angled for more $, but is happy to steal a service customer away from Pfaff!
I'm SO happy with the car--it's a wonderful machine and a real blast to drive. And these forums are outstanding--lots of excellent material to read here!
Thanks for the welcome....i'll be here frequently from now on!
The tech at DFC I talked to told me that on a 987 it is a simple process--hook the car up to the computer and that's it. I know other shops can do it as well.
The link on how to do the work yourselfhttp://www.whiteson.org/boxster/mods/drl/ only seems to work on 986 (pre 2005) Boxsters, as the fuse layout is different. I was going to go this way, but after looking at the fuse panel, I realize that it would be tough to do.
The tech also told me that i'd need new Airbag labels (french/english) to pass the certification, and he was going to give them to me for a nominal charge. All in all, he seemed like a straight up individual who probably could have angled for more $, but is happy to steal a service customer away from Pfaff!
I'm SO happy with the car--it's a wonderful machine and a real blast to drive. And these forums are outstanding--lots of excellent material to read here!
Thanks for the welcome....i'll be here frequently from now on!
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08-22-2007, 11:37 PM
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Congrats and welcome to rennlist Canada forum: the most active regional forum here! Hope to see you at our weekly Starbucks GTG soon. BTW: you don't need the french labels for the airbags, mine is a imported US car and there were no issues getting it safetied or tittled here. Actually, I'll probably remove mine soon using the rubbing alcohol trick someone posted on Renntech.org. If you go to DFC, Khalil Khan the service manager is a great guy and he will take good care of you.
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08-23-2007, 09:46 AM
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I got a temp plate from Illinois and I called my insurance company to fax over binder coverage for the GT3. They did and I drove it home.
Not sure if the temp plate is ok in Ontario. I drove home anyways.
Duty has been 6.1% for awhile.
Not sure if the temp plate is ok in Ontario. I drove home anyways.
Duty has been 6.1% for awhile.
08-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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08-23-2007, 12:43 PM
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Great to hear of your import...that is the best way to buy a car nowadays, as I got mine last year same. Enjoy, keep the shiney side up! don't forget to post pictures!!!!!!!
08-23-2007, 01:34 PM
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Congrats on a great deal!
Maybe a stupid question, is there no need to pay PST? When someone buys the same US-imported car from a dealer, they charge PST + GST + import tax (6.1%).
Maybe a stupid question, is there no need to pay PST? When someone buys the same US-imported car from a dealer, they charge PST + GST + import tax (6.1%).