Gregster

iirc they dont even give you a second chance anymore. You break sound and its day over

Gregster

The crackle tunes and overly loud Harleys with pipes is why these soundmeters get installed. The community does it to themselves

theiceman

agree 100%

They feel they have the right to do whatever they want .. fair enough , the people who have more numbers ,, decide they have a right to try and stop it, so guess who loses..

Thicc911Turbo

I feel like they're moving the goalposts by apparently applying rules that weren't in place at the time of the car's manufacture. It'd be like if, in the darkest days of Drive Clean, they'd apply 2024 emissions level standards to a car built in 2002.

Also, sound level limits are, as far as I know, different at WOT than when cruising. My Tuono has a valve in the exhaust path expressly there to quiet the exhaust down when pootling around town. But when you open it up the valve opens and you'd get more poWah and more sound. And this was fully street legal on a European designed- and built motorcycle from 2017.

Now it feels like they're throwing these distinctions away and just saying "if you're louder than XdB you're breaking the law", even though the vehicle in question was fully compliant at the time of its manufacture. Worse, it seems like this is a city-by-city thing; if the dude moved to Schenectady or Cooperstown a different set of rules might apply.

This is a microcosm of why people are increasingly hating government...

red996

Just do what bikers do. Bend your license plate up so it can't be photographed!

InTgr8r

^This..
I've been there numerous times and someone has been nailed every time.
Some of the GT3s run with a down turn tips and seem to be OK.
One of the guys that we travel with got a warning with an Elise

reacp911

Every car I had tested blew 1 or 2 % of the allowable limits, even my '95 saturn was well under the limit and it was burning a liter of oil every 200 (!) km, so I'd say the standards were lax

.2PDK

I didn't realize this was a thing...

reacp911

when I first saw this post, I thought a "Vilator" was one of those things that pumped engine noise into the interior of you car for sporty effect

928gt

That sounds like a decent plan... if you want a loud car or truck to express yourself, pump the exhaust back in the cabin. That would likely solve several problems, not just the noise.

theiceman

i know right ? wish i could edit the title lol

928gt

Calabogie also has a 92 dBa pass-by limit for HPDE events.

theiceman

I guess what concerns us all as mentioned earlier ... a few bad actors ruins it for everyone.. Ridiculous noise out of a few, then the ban hammer comes down and impacts everyone. That's why people who think these guys are car "enthusiasts" should think again..
it is absolutely ridiculous a stock car should be receiving tickets. If they think a stock car is too loud ( as in government) they should halt import into the country . If it passes that , the Feds should come down on municipalities and say sorry .. we approved it .. move on

928gt

I agree 100% that a few bad actors are ruining it for everyone. However, stock exhaust or not, no one needs to drive the cars in full-on audio assault mode and/or bouncing off the rev limiter on residential streets or in urban areas. I have yet to see or hear a car with an OEM exhaust that would break the noise limit when driven at normal engine speeds around town (~3500 rpm and below) with the "I'm-an-a$$hole" mode muffler bypass or pops and farts disabled.

The argument that "it is absolutely ridiculous a stock car should be receiving tickets - If they think a stock car is too loud ( as in government) they should halt import into the country" leads to a rather slippery slope. That's no different than saying "the highest speed limit anywhere in Canada is 120 km/h, therefore all cars should be limited to 120 km/h or they should not be sold here". Should we completely ban Porsches seeing as no one needs that kind of performance? Where do you draw the line?

It is up to the drivers to respect the limits where they exist and for the constabulary to enforce it. I have absolutely ZERO issues with people driving with their exhaust wide open on the 407 or doing 140 km/h (or for that matter, 200 km/h provided that other criteria have been met - namely having much more stringent driver education, vehicle safety inspections every year and mercilessly going after the passing lane hoggers or those that will pull out into the passing lane doing 80 km/h). I have a huge issue with people revving the snot out of their cars every time they set off from a stop sign or a traffic light in a residential area or are doing 60 km/h in a 30 km/h zone. There is a difference, and people fit to live in a civilized society know that. As for the bad actors that don't and are ruining it for everyone, they should indeed be penalized.

theiceman

actually its not at all the same .. Cars have to meet government standards to be imported, DRLs, seat belts, child anchors and yes Noise abatement standards.. once that is set im saying you shouldn't be allowed to crank it down even more, once the feds have decided this is allowable.