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Old 07-02-2017, 08:49 PM
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Crazy. Glad you all were mostly unscathed.
Old 07-02-2017, 09:41 PM
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The track Gods showed mercy. Glad that ended the way it did!
Old 07-02-2017, 11:33 PM
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Wow. Lucky lucky ducky. Go buy a lottery ticket.

Nice driving overall. Agree with feedback from Dave (VR) and Seb.
Old 07-03-2017, 08:22 AM
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Overall nice laps. I believe the over-slowing is from being offline in turn 5. it would be a lot easier to carry more speed if he setup wider in 5 instead of pinching the corner. See my line through 5.
I agree with Dave that the lap times would drop dramatically by eliminating the lift at 12. That is the low hanging fruit, it just takes courage to keep your foot down.
Old 07-03-2017, 10:22 AM
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Serious lap there Joey. Thanks for posting.
Old 07-03-2017, 10:51 AM
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wow, 120 flat and almost 160 into the brake zone for T1. All of a sudden my 1:28 in a Boxster doesn't feel so special Fun to watch, thanks for sharing.

To the OP, I think Seb called it but hand positioning is all wrong. You're handcuffing yourself.
Old 07-03-2017, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Solk
wow, 120 flat and almost 160 into the brake zone for T1. All of a sudden my 1:28 in a Boxster doesn't feel so special Fun to watch, thanks for sharing.

To the OP, I think Seb called it but hand positioning is all wrong. You're handcuffing yourself.
here's a few thoughts having done countless thunderbolt laps:
1. agree with Raptor, stay in the throttle on that last turn or atleast breathe it lighter. the more you breath there, the more the car pushes to the outside and becomes unplanted.
2. hands - agreed. put those thumbs on the thumblocks, too 1am and 11pm for my likes. makes steering a bit twitchy i think.
but the big one for me... a) you're driving great, good stuff. heads up. great avoidance on that spin, ...but if i may, get a driving suit, shoes. if you have a wife, kids, family, employees, job peers, that you like..if you like your skin and not having skin grafts etc. put a suit on. too hot with it on? eh, its good for you, sweat off a few more pounds so you can enjoy dinner a bit more..
but man, i cringe every time i see a great driver hauling it around any track without a driving suit. stuff happens...as you yourself almost saw, and when it goes wrong, you have no idea how bad it goes. had you slid off the track sideway, you could have rolled that car, who the heck knows what comes from all that.

it is, for sure, not a walk on the beach. its driving a race car on a race track at 160mph...

im a prude, what can i say...
great driving. protect yourself.
Old 07-03-2017, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spg993tt
here's a few thoughts having done countless thunderbolt laps:
1. agree with Raptor, stay in the throttle on that last turn or atleast breathe it lighter. the more you breath there, the more the car pushes to the outside and becomes unplanted.
2. hands - agreed. put those thumbs on the thumblocks, too 1am and 11pm for my likes. makes steering a bit twitchy i think.
but the big one for me... a) you're driving great, good stuff. heads up. great avoidance on that spin, ...but if i may, get a driving suit, shoes. if you have a wife, kids, family, employees, job peers, that you like..if you like your skin and not having skin grafts etc. put a suit on. too hot with it on? eh, its good for you, sweat off a few more pounds so you can enjoy dinner a bit more..
but man, i cringe every time i see a great driver hauling it around any track without a driving suit. stuff happens...as you yourself almost saw, and when it goes wrong, you have no idea how bad it goes. had you slid off the track sideway, you could have rolled that car, who the heck knows what comes from all that.

it is, for sure, not a walk on the beach. its driving a race car on a race track at 160mph...

im a prude, what can i say...
great driving. protect yourself.

agreed. moving your hand position around on the wheel is like changing your grip on a golf club with each swing......hard to be consistent. if you are locked in at 9 and three, over time, reactions can become instinctual which leads to "fast hands". also agree, safety equipment first as can afford, then speed equipment as you can afford.
Old 07-04-2017, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
Good observations!
not really.... a traditional racing turn, and most modern gearing almost always has a shift at just after track out. it means you are accelerating out of the turn with the most amount of available force. bogging a GTS, GT4 or any other moderm porsche around turn 5 at 3-4,000rpm, is leaving 50 to 100hp on the table, and leaving it on the table for near 3 seconds. trust me, ive done the test many times . the data doesn't lie, nor does the logic. if you over slow due to downshifting, you need to work on that... IMHO
Old 07-04-2017, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bull_D
agreed. moving your hand position around on the wheel is like changing your grip on a golf club with each swing......hard to be consistent. if you are locked in at 9 and three, over time, reactions can become instinctual which leads to "fast hands". also agree, safety equipment first as can afford, then speed equipment as you can afford.
Amen to that! one of my pet peeves. this so important when operating the car at near the edge.
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I would advocate more shuffle steering.
Old 07-05-2017, 12:13 AM
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:57 AM
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Here's how Bobby Unser steers.

s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NZvfUMpkE&list=PLkkBLpjvFaXoPsi7-cIOZZOFRrYIeUnop&index=29
Old 07-05-2017, 09:03 AM
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I can't get the link to work.
Old 07-05-2017, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lehman
Here's how Bobby Unser steers.

s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NZvfUMpkE&list=PLkkBLpjvFaXoPsi7-cIOZZOFRrYIeUnop&index=29


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