Do you race in the rain?
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I like the rain, as long as visibility is not too compromised...
Joking aside, I like racing in the rain too. From the few skippy mx-5 races I've won majority of them have been in the rain, but often due to almost half the field being eliminated.
Just deciding if I will need to bring two extra sets of tires (one rain set) on race weekends for my own SPB next season.
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Just deciding if I will need to bring two extra sets of tires (one rain set) on race weekends for my own SPB next season.
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Joking aside, I like racing in the rain too. From the few skippy mx-5 races I've won majority of them have been in the rain, but often due to almost half the field being eliminated.
Just deciding if I will need to bring two extra sets of tires (one rain set) on race weekends for my own SPB next season.
Just deciding if I will need to bring two extra sets of tires (one rain set) on race weekends for my own SPB next season.
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Any tips for racing in the rain? I assume trailbraking is a bad idea?
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Yup and thanks Leh, Can't wait to see you return!
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Video Link: http://youtu.be/rerpuYzaJWoI was going to add Ross Bentley's tip "make the car do something in the rain" - so as to be proactive rather than reactive
This is an amazing display of car control
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Not all curbing is equal; I found some (unpainted of course) that was grippier than the track in the wet... YMMV.
Always push, always try for more, be continually looking for grip, especially when you have changing conditions. Which, really, is every time it rains. It's rarely constant, and the track can be expected to change every lap. If you learn how to make the car dance in the wet, you'll have an edge. You'll be the one who picks up the pace as the track starts to dry, instead of the one who gets passed turning full wet times.
Never is slow in/fast out more important than in the wet. It's easier to recover a car losing grip on corner exit than entry/under braking.
Visibility is usually improved by being in front of all the other cars; coincidentally, so are race results, so it's a good target.
But if you don't get in front - don't throw out your back trying to catch up. Odds are, if you use your tires judiciously, and hit your marks without overdriving the car, the other drivers will be the ones making the mistakes and you'll catch back up in short order. Persistence pays off.
Nothing like a changing conditions race... this started dry, whole field on drys... finished in full wet conditions with hail:
https://vimeo.com/95471438
Always push, always try for more, be continually looking for grip, especially when you have changing conditions. Which, really, is every time it rains. It's rarely constant, and the track can be expected to change every lap. If you learn how to make the car dance in the wet, you'll have an edge. You'll be the one who picks up the pace as the track starts to dry, instead of the one who gets passed turning full wet times.
Never is slow in/fast out more important than in the wet. It's easier to recover a car losing grip on corner exit than entry/under braking.
Visibility is usually improved by being in front of all the other cars; coincidentally, so are race results, so it's a good target.
But if you don't get in front - don't throw out your back trying to catch up. Odds are, if you use your tires judiciously, and hit your marks without overdriving the car, the other drivers will be the ones making the mistakes and you'll catch back up in short order. Persistence pays off.
Nothing like a changing conditions race... this started dry, whole field on drys... finished in full wet conditions with hail:
https://vimeo.com/95471438
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All good advice. Thanks, Vaughan.
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#44
I still trailbrake in the wet, but do it a whole lot gentler. Actually, the last part of the last sentence applies to everything in the wet. Getting on the throttle too early with the front wheels turned is more problematic than trailbraking in the wet, IMHO.
Agree with the comments about the wet line, crossing the dry line, and continuously searching for grip. Judge speed not by laptimes, but how you are doing relative to other cars. Wet is slower than dry, but everybody has to deal with it, so it balances out.
-Mike
Agree with the comments about the wet line, crossing the dry line, and continuously searching for grip. Judge speed not by laptimes, but how you are doing relative to other cars. Wet is slower than dry, but everybody has to deal with it, so it balances out.
-Mike
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Definately not anymore.....
Had my first incident when someone tried to save a spin in the rain and came back across track....
Done it many times and miss the challenge but that little plastic trophy is not worth as much as a nice shiny whole car in the trailer
Call me what you will
Had my first incident when someone tried to save a spin in the rain and came back across track....
Done it many times and miss the challenge but that little plastic trophy is not worth as much as a nice shiny whole car in the trailer
Call me what you will