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Old 06-29-2016, 07:59 PM
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Looks like the SCCA schedule just got sent out. Looks like they put the PCA group and GT, SP etc. back to back on Friday and Saturday...anyone know who the best person is to discuss this with?
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Originally Posted by entityx
Looks like the SCCA schedule just got sent out. Looks like they put the PCA group and GT, SP etc. back to back on Friday and Saturday...anyone know who the best person is to discuss this with?
REVISED: They're not back-to-back in the first session Friday but are in the afternoon as they're groups 1 and 3. They are however back-to-back on Saturday with PCA qualifying followed by the group 3 race (SCCA). Sunday they are separated....:

http://www.sfrscca.org/images/2016/C...24lagsched.pdf

Anyone hear anything about the wait list?

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Old 06-29-2016, 08:13 PM
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With 3 sprint races I assume the points races will be #2 & 3 just like last year. How will they grid those second and third races? Will it be based on Saturday's qualifying or fastest lap of the previous race or ???
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
They're not back-to-back on Friday, they're groups 1 and 3. They are however back-to-back on Saturday with PCA qualifying followed by the group 3 race (SCCA):

http://www.sfrscca.org/images/2016/C...24lagsched.pdf

Anyone hear anything about the wait list?
I'm seeing a Practice 1 and Qualifying 3 back to back on Fri (1:05 then 1:40) - or maybe I'm missing something?
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Originally Posted by entityx
I'm seeing a Practice 1 and Qualifying 3 back to back on Fri (1:05 then 1:40) - or maybe I'm missing something?
Oops my error (and apology) I was looking at the morning schedule....
Old 06-30-2016, 02:03 AM
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Given the SCCA schedule is out and it only shows 1 PCA run group, it appears our hopes of PCA getting a second group are dashed.

While the SCCA and PCA groups are back-to-back Friday afternoon and twice on Saturday, they don't look terrible except for Sat afternoon where the PCA race ends and then SCCA qualify starts. Looks like you would just head out late to qualify for SCCA. The Saturday morning 'conflict' of PCA qualify and SCCA race would be addressed by getting the PCA qualifying lap in quickly and the getting to SCCA race grid. At least there is no back-to-back issue on Sunday. It's a tough 'problem' for there guys lucky enough to be able to run both.

I traded emails with Sherry at SCCA a couple days ago about what the schedule might look like and potential back-to-back issues and I interpreted the response as a very polite 'it will be what it is and just deal with it'. Now we see the schedule and know what we have to deal with.

I'm just hopeful that PCA will have a way to adjust to any cars that have to withdraw and the ability to add someone from the wait list during the event (says one of the slugs who were not fast enough at registration and now sit on the wait list).

John: In the past, Races 2 & 3 for PCA were gridded by the fastest lap in the prior race.
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The way I'm interpreting the Friday morning schedule is a rotation of 3 groups starting at 8:30 and finishing a 12:05, with each group having a 25 minute session. So if that is correct, it would allow each group to have 3 practice sessions by Noon?
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Originally Posted by SoClose
The way I'm interpreting the Friday morning schedule is a rotation of 3 groups starting at 8:30 and finishing a 12:05, with each group having a 25 minute session. So if that is correct, it would allow each group to have 3 practice sessions by Noon?

There are like 7 run groups in that rotational it'll be one each
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Wish I could join you all. I just spent last weekend at a Skip Barber Advanced Course at Laguna Seca. What a blast of a track. It will be a long drive from Denver to get my 996 Cup car out there but it will be worth it. Love that track!!!
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Originally Posted by GWF911
Wish I could join you all. I just spent last weekend at a Skip Barber Advanced Course at Laguna Seca. What a blast of a track. It will be a long drive from Denver to get my 996 Cup car out there but it will be worth it. Love that track!!!
Come out to the POC event August 6-7. Would love to have you!
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There are some conflicts but if you want a lot of track time and 4 races entering into the SP group in Group 1 (or ITE ,or whatever) allows for the PCA guys that didnt get in to have a similar race experience, and effectively a second group of PCA in group 3 with some other cars.

Look forward to seeing the group there.

Ill speak to sherri about considerations for the next time we all run together. there shouldn't be any reason why they cant space the schedule out for those that want to do both groups.

Mark


Originally Posted by Tom W
Given the SCCA schedule is out and it only shows 1 PCA run group, it appears our hopes of PCA getting a second group are dashed.

While the SCCA and PCA groups are back-to-back Friday afternoon and twice on Saturday, they don't look terrible except for Sat afternoon where the PCA race ends and then SCCA qualify starts. Looks like you would just head out late to qualify for SCCA. The Saturday morning 'conflict' of PCA qualify and SCCA race would be addressed by getting the PCA qualifying lap in quickly and the getting to SCCA race grid. At least there is no back-to-back issue on Sunday. It's a tough 'problem' for there guys lucky enough to be able to run both.

I traded emails with Sherry at SCCA a couple days ago about what the schedule might look like and potential back-to-back issues and I interpreted the response as a very polite 'it will be what it is and just deal with it'. Now we see the schedule and know what we have to deal with.

I'm just hopeful that PCA will have a way to adjust to any cars that have to withdraw and the ability to add someone from the wait list during the event (says one of the slugs who were not fast enough at registration and now sit on the wait list).

John: In the past, Races 2 & 3 for PCA were gridded by the fastest lap in the prior race.
Old 06-30-2016, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by audipwr1
There are like 7 run groups in that rotational it'll be one each
I guess that I'm mistaken- when I saw 7,4,5,6 on the same line I was thinking they would all run together- especially since last time I looked there were only a few cars in each of those groups.
The time adds up correctly as you suggest.
Old 07-01-2016, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 400hp944
Come out to the POC event August 6-7. Would love to have you!
I'll be there!!
Old 07-01-2016, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 400hp944
Come out to the POC event August 6-7. Would love to have you!
Orange group is almost sold. Still spots in the Red group and the TA group....
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John, what is the max car count for the Orange Group?


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