Alonzo crash
03-22-2016, 04:09 PM
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That is an incredible photo. Initially, I didn't see any other car involved and neither did the camera man for the US feed until you saw Alonso's bright white suit crawl from behind something that didn't resemble a car....
The last time I felt that we lost someone was when Kubica had that nasty car on approach to the Casino Hairpin in Montreal.
The last time I felt that we lost someone was when Kubica had that nasty car on approach to the Casino Hairpin in Montreal.
03-22-2016, 07:55 PM
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its amazing how the wheels just fall off when there is contact. obviously, it was a harder hit than it looked, but that car just disassembled itself before it even got airborne. very lucky there was all that run off .
03-23-2016, 03:12 PM
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in our racing, that kind of impact would have been a fender bender, and maybe the front car would have spun out. im not talking about the way parts go flying when it hits the wall (energy absorbing factors), im talking about a near glancing blow, that instantly removes the wheel and tire. i think they need to start making the tie rods out of metal and not balsa wood. edit: just watched the video in full speed. that wheel had no chance.. when an open wheel tire hits another tire , effectively going the opposite direction that structure has NO hope. ugly. removed instantly!
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03-23-2016, 04:39 PM
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If you look at the picture of the wreckage being lifted you can see that everything functioned exactly as intended and the cockpit survival cell is intact and withstood the incident. When a wreck looks spectacular with parts shedding and the car tumbling that's a good thing as it dissipates the energy. It's the single huge hit impact wreck that's devastating.
And I'm not so sure it was important that Alonso got out quickly, he'd have been fine in the cockpit cell, so the halo argument does not apply here.
In any case, thank God for Nando, my favorite F1 drover.
And I'm not so sure it was important that Alonso got out quickly, he'd have been fine in the cockpit cell, so the halo argument does not apply here.
In any case, thank God for Nando, my favorite F1 drover.
03-23-2016, 06:05 PM
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If you look at the picture of the wreckage being lifted you can see that everything functioned exactly as intended and the cockpit survival cell is intact and withstood the incident. When a wreck looks spectacular with parts shedding and the car tumbling that's a good thing as it dissipates the energy. It's the single huge hit impact wreck that's devastating.
And I'm not so sure it was important that Alonso got out quickly, he'd have been fine in the cockpit cell, so the halo argument does not apply here.
In any case, thank God for Nando, my favorite F1 drover.
And I'm not so sure it was important that Alonso got out quickly, he'd have been fine in the cockpit cell, so the halo argument does not apply here.
In any case, thank God for Nando, my favorite F1 drover.
03-25-2016, 07:41 AM
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that first disassembly, caused the real crash. in our racing, that kind of impact would have been a fender bender, and maybe the front car would have spun out. im not talking about the way parts go flying when it hits the wall (energy absorbing factors), im talking about a near glancing blow, that instantly removes the wheel and tire. i think they need to start making the tie rods out of metal and not balsa wood. edit: just watched the video in full speed. that wheel had no chance.. when an open wheel tire hits another tire , effectively going the opposite direction that structure has NO hope. ugly. removed instantly!
in our racing, that kind of impact would have been a fender bender, and maybe the front car would have spun out. im not talking about the way parts go flying when it hits the wall (energy absorbing factors), im talking about a near glancing blow, that instantly removes the wheel and tire. i think they need to start making the tie rods out of metal and not balsa wood. edit: just watched the video in full speed. that wheel had no chance.. when an open wheel tire hits another tire , effectively going the opposite direction that structure has NO hope. ugly. removed instantly!
03-28-2016, 09:10 AM
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Actually we should be saying kudos to the late Sid Walkins. It was Sid who spear headed making the sport safer. But at the end of the day, it does not matter who we commemorate. The important thing is that Alonso walked away from a crash and a few decades ago would have taken his life. With that said I am not so sure the new safety roll bar or canopy they are talking about introducing soon has been properly vetted. They better make sure that whatever system they come up with, that getting the drivers out of the car quickly in case of a fire (yes the cars can still catch on fire) is possible.
The movie "1" does a nice job of chronicling the history of safety improvements in F1.
03-28-2016, 01:45 PM
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