The ROAR before the 24 @ Daytona
#31
not sure how many GS cars we will have in the series overall so it makes sense to just go for it straight up. The reality also is that the Mustangs ran a 1:56 last year and nobody approached that.
Rick's car ran without 100lbs of ballast on sunday- IMSA wanted to see how equalized his build is with the Porsche factory turnkey car.
Rick's car ran without 100lbs of ballast on sunday- IMSA wanted to see how equalized his build is with the Porsche factory turnkey car.
PCA Club racing has had this PDK vs. Manual situation in the GTB1 class for the last 4 years, after many seasons of running, 100Lbs is the current weight difference between the 2 and it always seems to play out fairly..
On many occasions and in side by side tests we have seen the PDK no lift shifting is worth about .5 car lengths PER shift and that equates to a rather large distance/time over a long race.
Interesting to see how this will play out..
Your car looked GREAT CJ! and you guys were driving the wheels off it...!
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#32
one of the rum bum drivers ended up driving the deMan car I believe...I think they are simply determining if it makes sense to run their 997 at Daytona or their Cayman CS. In regards to the rules a driver pair will accumulate points in whatever car they run during the season. so, you could theoretically have 3 different cars for different tracks and swap between them based on your idea of performance. Foss/Mosing switched from BMW to Cayman mid season a few years back in ST.
Nick Longhi is a long time friend and we live in the same small town in NY. We have always driven cars together and his seat time was NOT a Rum Bum involvement..
Just saying...
#33
Looks like the 6 speed cars and the PDK cars are pretty equal with the right weight split.
PCA Club racing has had this PDK vs. Manual situation in the GTB1 class for the last 4 years, after many seasons of running, 100Lbs is the current weight difference between the 2 and it always seems to play out fairly..
On many occasions and in side by side tests we have seen the PDK no lift shifting is worth about .5 car lengths PER shift and that equates to a rather large distance/time over a long race.
PCA Club racing has had this PDK vs. Manual situation in the GTB1 class for the last 4 years, after many seasons of running, 100Lbs is the current weight difference between the 2 and it always seems to play out fairly..
On many occasions and in side by side tests we have seen the PDK no lift shifting is worth about .5 car lengths PER shift and that equates to a rather large distance/time over a long race.
#34
This is the first time I've heard such a precise comparison of PDK vs. 6-speed performance from someone as knowledgeable and experienced as Rick D. While the upshifting benefits with PDK are clear, is there also a gearing difference/advantage with the PDK transmission?
The overall gear charts are similar with the advantage going to the CS in my opinion.
You can see some of the differences I am quoting here on this video done a few years back.. Go to the last 3 minuets for a Drag race comparison of the PDK vs. Manual
#35
Gearing is very close from the GT4 6 speed to the PDK on the CS cars. The CS cars use the PDK trans from the 2.7L base car and 7th gear is electronically locked out.
The overall gear charts are similar with the advantage going to the CS in my opinion.
You can see some of the differences I am quoting here on this video done a few years back.. Go to the last 3 minuets for a Drag race comparison of the PDK vs. Manual http://youtu.be/hXyaOgqhchw
The overall gear charts are similar with the advantage going to the CS in my opinion.
You can see some of the differences I am quoting here on this video done a few years back.. Go to the last 3 minuets for a Drag race comparison of the PDK vs. Manual http://youtu.be/hXyaOgqhchw
Rick, other than the transmission difference, can you tell us how your GT4 race car differs from the Clubsport car?
#36
Glad to see Rick and CJ pushing the cayman platform in IMSA
Rick,
How does the GT4 compare to the 3.8L 987.2 conversions you've built? Would also like to hear why you chose to build out a GT4 vs purchase a factory clubsport?
Rick,
How does the GT4 compare to the 3.8L 987.2 conversions you've built? Would also like to hear why you chose to build out a GT4 vs purchase a factory clubsport?
#37
$75,000 less race ready..
#38
Rum Bum has their own agenda and is in NO WAY in collaboration or involved with DeMan testing our GT4-R.
Nick Longhi is a long time friend and we live in the same small town in NY. We have always driven cars together and his seat time was NOT a Rum Bum involvement..
Just saying...
Nick Longhi is a long time friend and we live in the same small town in NY. We have always driven cars together and his seat time was NOT a Rum Bum involvement..
Just saying...
CJ's cars looked great and of all the Clubsport cars in the field, they seemed to have the best grasp and kudos to them given their short time with the Porsche brand. I think that they will have a solid program and they look to be making all of the right moves.
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but the reality is that it was impressive seeing Rick (NOT A HIRED GUN) do these fast times; what was more impressive was seeing his his average lap times throughout the stint.
CJ's cars looked great and of all the Clubsport cars in the field, they seemed to have the best grasp and kudos to them given their short time with the Porsche brand. I think that they will have a solid program and they look to be making all of the right moves.
CJ's cars looked great and of all the Clubsport cars in the field, they seemed to have the best grasp and kudos to them given their short time with the Porsche brand. I think that they will have a solid program and they look to be making all of the right moves.
Definitely true on the second observation above. Top pro TEAM effort!
Tony D's take: "Speaking of the Continental series, the voluminous number of Porsche Caymans in either GS or ST (14 of the 26 cars at Daytona) has led to the joke the series’ acronym of CTSCC actually stands for “Continental Tire Spec Cayman Challenge.”"
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Last edited by ProCoach; 01-12-2016 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Added Tony D's take
#42
I speculate that the value of Caymans is about to jump if solid race results follow. Isn't this the same reason why many years ago the 911 became legendary?!? The race results... Hmmmm....