What are you towing with and what is your milage?
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What are you towing with and what is your milage?
Thinking of getting something new. Currently towing a <10,000 gooseneck with a F350 Superduty SRW diesel. Trailer has a slight V nose too. Best tow mpg is 9-10. Not towing is highway 16-18 driving with the tailgate down balancing a bowl of battery acid on my head. 13 around town.
Anything better?
Looking into Ram 3500 6.4 hemi. Not really sure if the Cummins upcharge will pay off. I currently tow 30-40 times a season but no more than 200 miles there and back.
Anything better?
Looking into Ram 3500 6.4 hemi. Not really sure if the Cummins upcharge will pay off. I currently tow 30-40 times a season but no more than 200 miles there and back.
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Ford F250 crew cab long bed diesel 2012 hauling a CargoPro aluminum enclosed. About 7k loaded. Truck gets 21 unloaded, 12-12.2 towing. Can't recall the rear end; maybe a 3.70 Very happy with the ride and nvh as well as the quality in general.
Should mention speed makes a big difference; I am usually at 70-73 or so.
Should mention speed makes a big difference; I am usually at 70-73 or so.
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Love my Ram 2500 diesel. 18-20 highway. 13-15 pulling about 6k enclosed. It's my DD and really comfortable as big *** trucks go.
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I have towed a ton of horse trailers, used GMC, Ford 150, 250, 350 DRW and a 650 Super Cruzer with a Cummings... everything from 5,000 lbs to 30,000 lbs loaded. I got 10-12MPG into the wind, with the wind, uphill, downhill... The mileage is the least of my worries. I want it to be reliable... My current choice would be the new Ram offerings great engine and great transmission.
If you have a heavy load the dual rear wheel pays off in spades in a cross wind and general towing IMHO.
If you have a heavy load the dual rear wheel pays off in spades in a cross wind and general towing IMHO.
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F250 Super Duty. (99). 7.3 Diesel Long Bed. Helper Springs.
Tows a 28' Aluminum Tag loaded up approaching 7k lbs ~ 11MPG... Tows well but the truck is long in the tooth in amenities. Either my wife or HOA will make me get it our of the driveway.... I'd like to replace it too but can't justify the cost of a newer Diesel equivalent basically because it only gets used when needed (read not as often as I'd like!).. I'd likely get a 11 or newer Ford Diesel though...
Tows a 28' Aluminum Tag loaded up approaching 7k lbs ~ 11MPG... Tows well but the truck is long in the tooth in amenities. Either my wife or HOA will make me get it our of the driveway.... I'd like to replace it too but can't justify the cost of a newer Diesel equivalent basically because it only gets used when needed (read not as often as I'd like!).. I'd likely get a 11 or newer Ford Diesel though...
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I towed first time ever with my '13 Ram 1500 CC Hemi my 997 4S on a rented Uhaul trailer plus extra set of wheels, jack, tools, etc with two people... Trailer with car probably around 5500 lbs plus maybe another 500 of payload
On average mixed highway driving with traffic i did ~14.5-14.7 mpg for a distance of 150 miles...
Coming back i filled up on the highway and i reset the computer... Tried to keep average speed on the trip computer ~60mph and my mpg would stay 15.9-16.1 mpg but i was being extra careful with the gas pedal... That until we hit GWB where it took us 1.5 hours to pass! freaking NJ traffic! lol...
I was really impressed since i was expecting an mpg in the low 10s...
The truck has the 8 speed tranny and highway driving i see over 20mpg no problem, cruising 65-75mph
On average mixed highway driving with traffic i did ~14.5-14.7 mpg for a distance of 150 miles...
Coming back i filled up on the highway and i reset the computer... Tried to keep average speed on the trip computer ~60mph and my mpg would stay 15.9-16.1 mpg but i was being extra careful with the gas pedal... That until we hit GWB where it took us 1.5 hours to pass! freaking NJ traffic! lol...
I was really impressed since i was expecting an mpg in the low 10s...
The truck has the 8 speed tranny and highway driving i see over 20mpg no problem, cruising 65-75mph
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I have a 2005 GMC Duramax Crewcab 1 ton dually and I tow a 40' goose. Not sure of the weight but it is heavy. As mentioned above, speed is critical to better MPG. I have an edge and use tow mode. If I keep it around 75 mph I will see 10-11 mpg, however at 85 mph it drops to 7 mpg. Not great but certainly in the acceptable range. Reliability is very important to me and I love my Duramax and Allison tranny. Most of my fellow racers also use Duramax diesels for the same reason. One other item to consider for anyone towing is a Transfer Flow tank, no affiliation. I installed the 98 gallon model recently and was able to tow almost 1k miles on a single tank. Time savings and not worrying about where I will find diesel in the middle of nowhere is liberating. One last item to consider is cost of ownership. I would love a new truck but mine only gets used for towing my trailer and a few odd jobs. A few miles better mpg in a late model truck will be difficult to recoup based on depreciation, sales taxes, high registration fees and insurance for a few more miles per gallon in a new truck IMO.
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'03 F350 6.0 Crew SRW. ~16 up and down the freeway running around for the vending business. Attach the stacker? Maybe, maybe 9MPG with the low sulfur fuel now @ 60 MPH. With this new little v-nose 18' Cargomate I picked up got me about 12MPG on a Phoenix round tripper last month. Didn't seem to matter that I only had a shell of an '84 Targa to So Cal, empty to Phoenix, and the 996 Turbo on the way back.
EDIT: When I got the aluminum open trailer with that '84 Targa it almost didn't matter that I pulled 3500-4000 lbs.
EDIT: When I got the aluminum open trailer with that '84 Targa it almost didn't matter that I pulled 3500-4000 lbs.
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When I pulled Kermit on an open Featherlight I often had to remind myself that there was a trailer back there. No so with the aluminum 28' goose.
My F350 was my first coal burner and for some reason this very well equipped Lariat did not have a block heater. Always a PITA to start on a cold winter day but this year it was not even useable.
My F350 was my first coal burner and for some reason this very well equipped Lariat did not have a block heater. Always a PITA to start on a cold winter day but this year it was not even useable.
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Scruffy, I get 12-13 mpg hauling the loaded trailer with my '04 F-350. My trailer is just under 7K lbs loaded so much lighter than yours. Have you tried a tuner to tweek the ecu for better mileage?
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If you are considering a one ton truck and not getting a diesel, you need to have your head examined. The newer gassers get comparable mileage because the gov't has gutted the cetane in diesel. But there is no comparison when you hit a hill or are coming up to speed, the diesel hands down.
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If you are considering a one ton truck and not getting a diesel, you need to have your head examined. The newer gassers get comparable mileage because the gov't has gutted the cetane in diesel. But there is no comparison when you hit a hill or are coming up to speed, the diesel hands down.
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"The new 6.4-liter Hemi V-8 produces 410 horsepower at 5,600 rpm with 429 lb.-ft. of torque and features variable valve timing (VVT) with fuel-saver cylinder deactivation"
The Ford 6.7 diesel is around 800 ft-lbs, Dodge Cummins is around 850 ft-lbs. That is quite alot of difference between gas and diesel.
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2005 Dodge Cummins. 325hp/610tq stock but I have bully dog on it set to tow mode. 4x4 with dynatrac free spin kit. Last of the NV5600 manual trans trucks. South bend OFE clutch as OEM cannot hold bully dog in power mode. 2" leveling kit and firestone air bags to bring rear back up when I tow 20' gooseneck. Mpg is great unless I try to tow at 75mph. As soon as boost is running over 20, mileage drops hard. The 5.9 cummins and NV5600 may be old school now but it is bulletproof. I average 16-16.5 towing.