Cannonball Run 28:50 = Max Dumbass Factor
#16
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Sorry, I fail to see how driving an average of 100 mph in a rolling 5,000 pound fuel/air bomb on public highways in a nation of 350,000,000 bumbling fools driving minivans, motorhomes, and semis in total oblivion is in any way a good thing.
#17
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Old fart I am . . .
Best left to movie stunts, folk-law, and cold brew debates.
Modern cars today and 24-hour races have shown both men and machine can travel this distance over such delta times easily today.
No one got hurt, but it could have also gone horribly wrong to others (FedEx) not involved in the stunt. Hop a plane, fly to Germany, rent from Hertz and go faster, legally on a roads built for it and populated with drivers who understand the risk and are better prepared for it. So not much of an accomplishment except in violating traffic laws in the US.
Not sure what it proves. Risking yours and unsuspecting others lives and getting away with it (for now)? To average 90+, there would have been times they exceeded +100 on public roads, regardless of "spotters", not really what the public US Interstates are set up for.
But they are now famous and isn't that what it is all about.
Modern cars today and 24-hour races have shown both men and machine can travel this distance over such delta times easily today.
No one got hurt, but it could have also gone horribly wrong to others (FedEx) not involved in the stunt. Hop a plane, fly to Germany, rent from Hertz and go faster, legally on a roads built for it and populated with drivers who understand the risk and are better prepared for it. So not much of an accomplishment except in violating traffic laws in the US.
Not sure what it proves. Risking yours and unsuspecting others lives and getting away with it (for now)? To average 90+, there would have been times they exceeded +100 on public roads, regardless of "spotters", not really what the public US Interstates are set up for.
But they are now famous and isn't that what it is all about.
#18
Nordschleife Master
I am on the fence about this. The tradition associated with the Legendary Cannonball coast to cast run is rich. There are only a select few that can claim this record. That said - is it foolhardy? Possibly. Does it put people at risk - maybe.
Part of me thinks this is very cool at a certain level. Meanwhile the other part of me thinks this is bat **** insane. We can only speculate on what they "actually" did. So that said - I hold judgement, but reserve the right to say "...heh, cool."
C.
Part of me thinks this is very cool at a certain level. Meanwhile the other part of me thinks this is bat **** insane. We can only speculate on what they "actually" did. So that said - I hold judgement, but reserve the right to say "...heh, cool."
C.
#19
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Exactly, and how would the cheerleaders feel if the story involved a "bumbling fool" family member that pulled into their lane because there was "no one there" when they looked? 158 MPH = 231.73 feet per second..
#20
I am on the fence about this. The tradition associated with the Legendary Cannonball coast to cast run is rich. There are only a select few that can claim this record. That said - is it foolhardy? Possibly. Does it put people at risk - maybe.
Part of me thinks this is very cool at a certain level. Meanwhile the other part of me thinks this is bat **** insane. We can only speculate on what they "actually" did. So that said - I hold judgement, but reserve the right to say "...heh, cool."
C.
Part of me thinks this is very cool at a certain level. Meanwhile the other part of me thinks this is bat **** insane. We can only speculate on what they "actually" did. So that said - I hold judgement, but reserve the right to say "...heh, cool."
C.
breaking an iconic "car guy" record...awesome.
averaging 100 mph coast to coast in a car that reeks of fuel...beyond stupid.
of course racing is stupid, jumping out of airplanes is stupid, taking that bridesmaid back to the hotel room is stupid.....
#21
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that sums up my thoughts.
breaking an iconic "car guy" record...awesome.
averaging 100 mph coast to coast in a car that reeks of fuel...beyond stupid.
of course racing is stupid, jumping out of airplanes is stupid, taking that bridesmaid back to the hotel room is stupid.....
breaking an iconic "car guy" record...awesome.
averaging 100 mph coast to coast in a car that reeks of fuel...beyond stupid.
of course racing is stupid, jumping out of airplanes is stupid, taking that bridesmaid back to the hotel room is stupid.....
#22
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I just read this article on CNN about how some guy just broke the East-West coast speed record in a MB AMG averaging 98 mpg with a peak speed of 158 mph. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/us/new...html?hpt=hp_c3
I think it's safe to say that this was not on a closed course! The article casts a positive light on this guy's 'accomplishment' which I find disturbing. Two guys driving at those speeds for 28 hours straight on public roads = DOUCHEBAGS. I hope they gather the guy's video and data and lock him up.
I think it's safe to say that this was not on a closed course! The article casts a positive light on this guy's 'accomplishment' which I find disturbing. Two guys driving at those speeds for 28 hours straight on public roads = DOUCHEBAGS. I hope they gather the guy's video and data and lock him up.
#23
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Stupid and irresponsible as hell, but you have to hand it to him.
The guy in 06 had spotter plans and decoy cars assisting him across his route.
You know this started with "Hey, watch this!".
The guy in 06 had spotter plans and decoy cars assisting him across his route.
You know this started with "Hey, watch this!".
#24
Nordschleife Master
#26
Race Car
Notice the lack of a metal shroud (firewall) around those fuel tanks? (as would be required on any track car), and the floor jack sitting next to those plastic tanks. -that's a huge red flag.
imaging them hitting someone texting in the fast lane with 50 mile differential. jack breaks spare fuel tanks, gas hits exhaust. poof!
then there's the fuel fumes issue. after a few hours it has to affect your mental capacity.
#27
planned sure, but you should not smell any fuel if it was executed properly...
Notice the lack of a metal shroud (firewall) around those fuel tanks? (as would be required on any track car), and the floor jack sitting next to those plastic tanks. -that's a huge red flag.
imaging them hitting someone texting in the fast lane with 50 mile differential. jack breaks spare fuel tanks, gas hits exhaust. poof!
then there's the fuel fumes issue. after a few hours it has to affect your mental capacity.
Notice the lack of a metal shroud (firewall) around those fuel tanks? (as would be required on any track car), and the floor jack sitting next to those plastic tanks. -that's a huge red flag.
imaging them hitting someone texting in the fast lane with 50 mile differential. jack breaks spare fuel tanks, gas hits exhaust. poof!
then there's the fuel fumes issue. after a few hours it has to affect your mental capacity.
they had to be pretty loopy by the end of that trip. or deaf, from the wind noise having the windows cracked at 100+ mph for 29 hours.
#28
Race Car
I've driven in some western states, and in all honesty, I can see some 100+mph mile runs being fairly safe in west TX, AZ, and NV, especially at night, when you can see cars far off.
OTOH, there were plenty of high risk areas, and admitting you broke the law, when you can still be arrested and prosecuted, is stupid and foolish. -just like some of that car prep.
I'd bet some sheriff and/or state attorney tries to prosecute, to set an example and make a name for themselves before an election....
OTOH, there were plenty of high risk areas, and admitting you broke the law, when you can still be arrested and prosecuted, is stupid and foolish. -just like some of that car prep.
I'd bet some sheriff and/or state attorney tries to prosecute, to set an example and make a name for themselves before an election....
#29
I seem to recall while shooting the original movie under controlled conditions they managed to put a stunt woman in a wheelchair.
Entertaining as a movie, not cool in realville.
-Mike
ETA: Apparently they were pretty stupid in making the original movie too: No seatbelts in stunt car.
Sure it was 1980, but come on.
Entertaining as a movie, not cool in realville.
-Mike
ETA: Apparently they were pretty stupid in making the original movie too: No seatbelts in stunt car.
Sure it was 1980, but come on.
#30
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So, what distinction did they exactly achieve ? Endurance driving ? For amateurs, maybe not bad, but they could have driven for the same amount of time at legal speeds. Flaunting the law and putting people at possible risk ? A+ there. Getting from coast to coast in record time ? Who cares.
Overall, I'm not impressed with their accomplishment, and I agree with others that this was just stupid at worst, misguided enthusiasm and "enterprise" at best.
Overall, I'm not impressed with their accomplishment, and I agree with others that this was just stupid at worst, misguided enthusiasm and "enterprise" at best.