deverest

Total BS...Nelson Ledges has one working faucet! Seriously, it is a bit rough, but it's a fun track.

winders

....and here I thought Sears Point had run off issues!

Scott

GuyIncognito

sadly it appears that Blackhawk Farms claimed another life last weekend

http://www.beloitdailynews.com/drive...9bb2963f4.html

ProCoach

Like the incidents at Nurburgring and at Lime Rock, this was generally considered to be due to a cardiac event that preceded it.

ProCoach

Yes, Frank. I am aware of the contradictions in my statements... I'm confusing real race cars with very, very fast street cars and GT cars.

GuyIncognito

entirely possible. interesting that the autopsy (or at least what was reported of it) didn't mention that though.

ProCoach

I did speak to folks who were there. Both the Lime Rock and the Blackhawk fatalities were in FV's...

cgomez

There's another factor mentioned that I can speculate had some effect: "VINTAGE"
Racing "Old" racecars is really a LOT more dangerous.

hf1

Looks like this heat-stress thing may be catching a trend? Racers getting "over-Nomexed" under heat and humidity, perhaps?

hf1

Especially if "vintage" refers to both car and driver? Just guessing, but I would bet the average age of drivers in vintage races would be higher than the drivers in "regular" ones. Either way, this confluence of deaths is disturbing.

ProCoach

I'm not aware of a trend of current fatalities based the age of the car, at least in my informal data gathering over the last twenty five years at both Club and vintage events. Average age appears to be ten to fifteen years higher than in vintage than in Club, and I have seen more fatalities due to cardiac events in and out of the car at vintage events, but maybe because I am at more vintage events!

good hands

FWIW

Deaths at road tracks in the US 1990-2010

Road America 7
Lime Rock Park 6
Moroso 4
Summit Point 4
Road Atlanta 3
Daytona 3
Thunderhill 2
ButtonWillow 2
Sears point 2
Nelson ledges,Gingerman,Sears point, Mid Ohio,Sebring,Heartland, Portland, Pheonix,Laguna, Motorsportsranch,Grattan all have 1

Thatsracin.com

drl

Chuckwalla has at least one, although that was a passenger

hf1

Wow, 6 @ LRP, my "home" track. ZERO at the Glen is quite amazing. Looks like all those close armcos may be decreasing the chances of a fatality at the expense of increasing the chances of a contact/crash. Very interesting. Thx for posting this.

ProCoach

Do not believe that is a complete list, missing big time deaths like JD McDuffie and the 2005 PCA DE Boxster fatality at Watkins Glen.

I've been at Summit, Lime Rock, Mid-Ohio and Moroso during (and on track with, in some cases) incidents where drivers died. Not cool.