Somebody Talk Me Out of This...
#31
Yes, he is. I'm sure he can be found in Rennlist.
I think that there's been very fair ideas presented in this thread.
If you want a GT car, do it. Passion- the heart, not the mind. It's racing, none of us would do it if it had to make sense.
A GT car minimizes the questions of cheating in the lettered car/spec classes. A GT car will immediately/eventually cost more to run than a lettered car. An early 70's tub is way fun to drive, but you had better start working out now- no power steering or brakes, constantly hunting around, a handful. Kick ***, ear to ear grin, old school.
I think that there's been very fair ideas presented in this thread.
If you want a GT car, do it. Passion- the heart, not the mind. It's racing, none of us would do it if it had to make sense.
A GT car minimizes the questions of cheating in the lettered car/spec classes. A GT car will immediately/eventually cost more to run than a lettered car. An early 70's tub is way fun to drive, but you had better start working out now- no power steering or brakes, constantly hunting around, a handful. Kick ***, ear to ear grin, old school.
#33
Drifting
Thank you...I cant believe I missed the FS posting...cant find it. I've got his number and will reach out to him.
I hope that's not the case. Unfortunate.
I hope that's not the case. Unfortunate.
#34
Race Car
Maybe I don't know any better!!
Scott
#35
I must be a big strong guy because I find my GT car with 11.5" front slicks. manual steering, and non-boosted 930 brakes easy to drive. I am ashamed to say that I don't lift weights at all. Unless you count 12 0z Diet Dr. Pepper cans......
Maybe I don't know any better!!
Scott
Maybe I don't know any better!!
Scott
Cory drove it several times and I think liked that aspect. All felt that the car was set up well- maybe an aberrancy of my car?
#36
Rennlist Member
I must be a big strong guy because I find my GT car with 11.5" front slicks. manual steering, and non-boosted 930 brakes easy to drive. I am ashamed to say that I don't lift weights at all. Unless you count 12 0z Diet Dr. Pepper cans......
Maybe I don't know any better!!
Scott
Maybe I don't know any better!!
Scott
BTW, SoClose is probably in the top 1% fitness wise of the folks on this board. If he says it's a work out, I believe him.
#37
Race Car
Owen Trinkleer, Nic Jonsson and Cory Friedman have driven the car, and the first two didn't want to drive it again- something about needing 'gorilla arms'.
Cory drove it several times and I think liked that aspect. All felt that the car was set up well- maybe an aberrancy of my car?
Cory drove it several times and I think liked that aspect. All felt that the car was set up well- maybe an aberrancy of my car?
Scott
#38
Rennlist Member
Enter the pool at the shallow end. Consequences-cost, closing speeds, maintenance costs, consumables costs all argue against a GT class 'special.'
Get either a production class or spec class car running DOT not slicks, with parts that can be obtained from factory authorized sources and screwed on according to factory authorized manuals.
Going racing involves a lot of work and you want to minimize as many variables as possible early on. A racecar is not a static, finished 'thing' in the same way you think of a street car. It is a license to buy parts and a tunable instrument with a lot of variables. Err on the side of simplicity, you won't be sorry.
EDIT: and PS, someone oughta buy this FF!!!
Get either a production class or spec class car running DOT not slicks, with parts that can be obtained from factory authorized sources and screwed on according to factory authorized manuals.
Going racing involves a lot of work and you want to minimize as many variables as possible early on. A racecar is not a static, finished 'thing' in the same way you think of a street car. It is a license to buy parts and a tunable instrument with a lot of variables. Err on the side of simplicity, you won't be sorry.
EDIT: and PS, someone oughta buy this FF!!!
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#40
Rennlist Member
Agree; one should really start in karts, graduate to open wheel or sports racer, then a nice porky closed car of one's choosing, but given the dearth of profile info by the OP, I like my counsel as the best 'average' advice!
#41
Race Car
I guess you missed this:
I have a (youth) kart racing and motorcycle DE background. I'm not new to driving competitively, but I AM new to preparing and racing an actual GT car. I know this will be a completely different kettle of fish and I have a lot to learn. Hopefully you guys can help me along the road to getting there.
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#42
Rennlist Member
{ looks closer at avatar }
Waaaaait, were you the guy whose car I was going all "ehmahgerd, I need your car" about at the last Spokes event? Because I need your car.
#43
Yep, that's me and I now I remember who you are, too. I'll be at the next one in San Antonio next month.
#44
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http://www.pca.org/portals/cr/2013%2...ule%20Book.pdf
Listen to the others, what class you successfully race in is a function of your experience and the size of your wallet . Don't start with a specific car, identify the class you want to race in first and then look for a competitive car in that class.
For PCA Club Racing: If you have no racing license, you need to demonstrate 12 days of DE over the past 24 months AND you need a sign off by your PCA regions Chief Instructor for your Rookie application. THen you need to make it past "the talk" with Susan Shire .
#45
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The Stock classes, say D through H (you see the list in the book) are just that. Semi stripped 911s, limited to a few mods and weight. E Stock is a huge class with lots of fun competetion.
The Prepared Stock cars are those which have had one or two limited mods which carry them out of Stock.
The GTC cars are factory Cup cars: GTC1=964 Cups through GTC5=the newest of the 7Cups.
The GTA cars are other factory cars, RSRs, Rs or Cups which have been modded beyond the restrictions of GTC. Class (1 or 2) is based on engine size.
The GT cars (like the one you like) are cars which have been modded beyond Stock or Prepared. Virtually anything goes. Classification (GT1 through GT5) is based on theoretical horsepower (i.e. 6cyl aircooled engines have a theo hp of 110 per liter) and weight. Some cars in this class are simply there because the owner build a bit of a hot rod and exceeded Stock, others were built to a specific class. GTxS cars run on DOTs and GTxR cars on slicks - no big deal.
Others can add in, but hopefully this helps.