danielyonker

I too have discussed this with multiple stewards, probably in a not-so-politically-correct way after nearly rear-ending multiple cup cars. In the end, the decision will be decided based on the number of registrants.

ninjabones

"nearly"!!! that's some funny stuff right there.

mcongleton

Paul

I think if PCA knew there were a group of us that were concerned they may move us out of the Red group. If I recall two or three years ago we did not run with Cup cars.

Rich you are correct this is a decision at the national level.

Danial and Ninja ......... maybe Paul can get this change done despite the number of registrants in each class. Are there really that many GT3 and GT4 cars at Sebring that moving us would be an issue?

Mark

SoClose

16 3/4 R/S cars qualified last year. We would have been 17&18 if not for car issues, not sure how many others didn't make the show. That's maybe 20% of the field?
Maybe we should be talking about a split start?

Juan Lopez

I hear they want to move me with the Cup Cars

See you there!!!!!!!!

PedroNole

Paul, remember our first two laps of the practice session at the Glen this year.... It's not just the non-Cup guys that have problems with some of the Cup guys....

Look, I'm all for adding a 4th run group if need be. I know that technically it's safe to have 70-75 cars on the track at Sebring at the same time according to insurance but that doesn't make it enjoyable which is what we're all there for anyway. Just as a lot of you guys don't like some of the Cup car drivers, there are some non-Cup drivers that aren't the best track mates either. The more PCA can do to reduce the speed differentials top to bottom in each run group, the better.

Astroman

Or what about the 90 minute, uhh I mean 20 minute "Enduro" at Road America?

mcongleton

I would go for a split start as a last resort. I did not know there were 16 GT3-4 cars in the race this year, that is more than I thought.

Mark

danielyonker

I know of at least one more cup and one more GT4s who will be coming in 2013......

coryf

Anything that would reduce the traffic would be great! I would love to see an extra run group added, even if it meant less run time.

danielyonker

Something like 51 GTC3, GTC4, GTC5, GTA1 and GTA2 cars registered thus far. I say put the GT1, GT2 and GT3 cars in with the cups and GTA cars and let them have at it!

mcongleton

Thanks Daniel but the GT3 guys/gal are trying to get moved "down" one group.

Mark

danielyonker

OK, based on my experience, a well sorted GT3S/R car with a good driver runs about the same pace as a competitive GTC3 car, no? This was my rationale for including GT3 cars and up with the cups, but I hear where you are coming from, too. It will be interesting to see what pans out, if anything. Does anyone know of any feedback from National on this?

John H

It's not cool that the rest of us get less track time. Devils advocate here, but why should the rest if us suffer because the cups and big dollar motor cars can't avoid running into each other. Maybe split the groups and divide track time between the two. If I wanted less track time, I'd run with NASA. Fire suit on.

analogmike

I agree 100%